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AIBU?

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To ask how many of you have a 'natural' lady garden?

395 replies

ineedsomeinspiration · 18/01/2014 20:04

I used to sport the landing strip up until I was about 6 months pregnant with ds who is now 2. I stopped shaving as I couldn't see what I was doing, also might sound daft but kind of wanted it to be the way nature intended to give birth.
Since then I haven't shaved, waxed, trimmed etc. I'm not massively hairy so it's not a full on 80s style bush.
DP moaned the other day as he liked it the way I used to have it. Hmm. I sort of told him tough luck it's my bits and quite frankly I cba and like not having itchy stubble. He watched our Baby come out of there fgs surely he realises it's not a fashion accessory?
AIBU to not make the effort for dp?

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kitchensinkmum · 22/01/2014 11:08

I think it's a funny state of affairs when people have their fanny hair removed by someone else . It's as if hairdressers were going out of fashion so someone invented the fanny hair do. Go and get your bikini line or a something similar on a Saturday afternoon . Strange way to spend your money I think.

summertimeandthelivingiseasy · 22/01/2014 12:06

I thought that when Nail Bars appeared on the scene. Before that, there were just a few salons over hairdressers that did manicures, along with facials or even massages and pedicures, with a bit of waxing (mainly lower legs of particularly hairy people - I didn't even think you bothered removing normal leg hair).

Who would have thought that years later, there are still shops where you go exclusively to have your nails done!

MostWicked · 22/01/2014 12:21

I use Venus Divine blades from either Costco or Amazon. Cost £1.50-£2 per blade. That's really not very much money to spend. I let mine grow a little between shaves so each blade lasts 1-2 months.

kitchensinkmum is leg shaving/waxing equally as funny? Is it just because it is done by someone else? Is make-up or eye-brow threading a strange way to spend your money?

Weelady77 · 22/01/2014 13:13

Kitchensmum I hope to god the school or police were involved regarding the girl??

kitchensinkmum · 22/01/2014 16:28

Mostwicked.. Sorry I know I'm old fashioned , it just seems funny to me to get someone to trim your pubic hair and actually eyebrows prob seem funny too. Leg shaving isn't funny at all but I have never understood why people can't just do it themselves
I'm not saying people shouldn't do it if they want too. Each to their own . I think it's fine to keep your lady garden neat and tidy but I think il stick to mowing my own myself.

TiggyOBE · 22/01/2014 21:39

Just posting and running. Great song though.

kitchensinkmum · 23/01/2014 06:37

Weel , the girl was expelled at the end of that term for drugs and piercing the year seven girls ears in the loos . She had an ear piercing gun and was charging them five quid a time . I think the school new about the waxing they heard the screams . She's gone back to her school in Spain now .

FoxOff · 23/01/2014 08:27

I shave my pubes into the shape of a cross cos I have respect for holey places.

It also discourages vampires, so I'm told.

IceBeing · 23/01/2014 12:28

"Nobody ever suggested to me that I remove all my pubic hair, I decided all by myself. It made logical sense to me because I was shaving my pits and my legs already."

I am in awe of the double think required to write this. Simply in awe. So you had been convinced that one area of your pubic hair was dirty/didn't look good (how? spontaneously of course...nothing to do with every image of a woman associated with wealth/success/beauty published in the media being a hairless wonder) and then progressed to deciding ALL pubic hair must be iffy...but it was all your own individual idea???

Just wow.

I don't mind that people give in to peer pressure - I do it myself in oh so many different ways...but at least have the honesty to admit that is what you have done!

Joysmum · 23/01/2014 14:19

Hilarious that you can't see your double standards Icebeing. Just wow Grin

For every pressure to confirm to one preference, there is pressure to conform to another. Those of us the chose to faff with our public hair, are under no illusions that the so called feminists are belittling our abities to work out what we like for ourselves and pressuring us to regard our choices as the result of misogyny and porn.

Once again, we who choose to be different are perfectly accepting of the choices of so called feminists, but the so called feminists are actually more oppressive of women making their own choices than modern day men are!

What really disgusts me is that I'd be very surprised if the men of any of the women on this thread have been so disrespectful and forceful in their opinions upon us than the do called feminists.

Ironic Hmm

MostWicked · 23/01/2014 15:01

Icebeing you are convinced that we must have decided to do this due to peer pressure. I understand why you might think that, as the thought of ridding yourself of your pubes, clearly never occurred to you before coming across the idea in the media. However, I began shaving my pubes as a teen, way back in the 80s, when I had never seen another shaved woman (the only naked women I had ever seen had the full bush), and I had never heard of or discussed the idea from anyone else, so how did peer pressure influence me?

thriftymrs · 23/01/2014 15:30

Tiggy - if we're talking appropriate songs then how about "Big Muff" by John Martyn?

I'm 50 and have never pruned my bush. However I am blonde with very fine hair. I've never had more than a practically invisble fine down on my legs so have never needed to shave those (hurrah!). Do my pits a couple of times over the summer but they rarely need it. I thank my lucky stars I don't need to do all that maintenance because I don't know how I'd find the time!

My DDs have a different view (and are much darker than me) they like to do their legs and pits every week but thankfully haven't mentioned their fanjitas yet. I will most definitely try to dissaude them from anything more than a subtle trim. I wouldn't be impressed if their future boyfriends encouraged them to shave downstairs. I will actively encourage them not to. Isn't it there for a reason - like to help ward off infection (or vampires like someone suggested above)?

Weelady77 · 23/01/2014 16:40

Thrifty your a lucky buggerSmile

IceBeing · 23/01/2014 17:11

Feminism is about choice. But not all choices are equally feminist.....

It isn't actually contradictory to say that as a feminist I support people doing whatever they like with their pubes but that it is bad for the cause of feminism in general for people to go hairless.

This isn't a contradiction because we don't currently live in a society where both choices are equally acceptable.

If you follow the trend you unbalance the situation even further. If you fight the trend you help the fight for equality between the two options.

At the moment we have teens who are totally disgusted by the natural appearance of their own bodies. That can't be good for anyone/society. The way to help reduce the impact of body consciousness is to celebrate diversity. To say bodies are supposed to be variable in amongst other things hairiness, and that there is no one rigid pattern of 'beauty'. This is a hard argument to make when 95% of women think that pubes are disgusting.

The same could be said about anything that feminists campaign for. Like Miley Cyrus. As a feminist I would say of course she has the right to make money out of getting naked and exploiting her looks. As a feminist I would also say that I really really wish she wouldn't. It makes life that little bit harder for basically every other woman on the planet. It knocks back the cause of equality.

I hope that explains why it isn't contradictory for feminists to want free choice for all at the transient expense of valuing all choices equally right here and now.

Oblomov · 23/01/2014 17:27

I use a beard trimmer on the side bits and just give it all a trim. Don't like no hair, think it looks like a child and don't like that.

randomAXEofkindness · 23/01/2014 18:16

Go and get your bikini line or a something similar on a Saturday afternoon . Strange way to spend your money I think.

Indeed kitchensinkmum, and your Saturday afternoon. What a waste of time. The list of things I'd rather do than have the hairs painfully ripped out of my body is, without exaggeration, endless.

kitchensinkmum · 23/01/2014 18:53

Had anyone mentioned the pain ... .? Oooohhhwwwwwww

BradleyCoopersCurlyPerm · 24/01/2014 02:30

WTF???

I was 12 when I started shaving. Hardly persuaded one way or the other by media or peer pressure really. I just decided to do it because I already shaved my legs and it was my own personal preference to be smooth.

I really don't think it takes any media mind warping to tell me that smooth legs look better and feel better than hairy ones.

And I don't really think about the whole of womankind when I defuzz. I tend to think about my own preference of being smooth. What with it being my own minge and all that.

As for waxing being a weird way to spend money, people pay others to carry out services for them all the time that others do themselves - gardening, cleaning, painting, cooking etc. And of course I can assume that you cut your own hair, never have a meal in a restaurant or a drink in a bar etc??? Bizzare logic.

Theodorous · 24/01/2014 04:18

Ice being you are slightly obsessed with this, you also speak as if you are in some way in charge of British vaginas and can actually dictate the rules. These threads are a waste of typing, you may as well just copy and paste from the last shit stirring "oo we haven't had a bun fight for a while" fanny shaving thread. entertaining, comical and slightly sad that some people worry so much about a few sweaty smelly old hairs rather than actually do anything about their own issues

kitchensinkmum · 24/01/2014 06:39

Assume .... Isn't it funny how people assume things if others . And some people never pay for services they just do all themselves . Which is fine it's doesn't affect anyone else dose it.
If I don't pay for bikini line waxing Etc doesn't mean I don't pay someone to clean my car or of out for lunch does it .

Theodorous · 24/01/2014 08:25

You can shave anywhere, parent and child space, Asda, disabled toilets, priority seat on a train....seeing as this is a goady thread and all that.

Joysmum · 24/01/2014 08:47

ice so you're as vocal about makeup, fashion, shaving of other areas?

How does my poor hubby fit into all this? He defuzzes for the same reasons I do. Is he a victim? Have I, and the others in society who prefer to be hairless or trimmed pressured him into a decision that reflects inequality?

kitchensinkmum · 24/01/2014 09:04

Just off to Asda to see how many people I can spot shaving their fannies .

IceBeing · 24/01/2014 10:27

joys yup pretty much...if by 'as vocal' you mean spend all of 10 mins typing on MN once every few months. NB. I do type very fast...it genuinely isn't a huge time commitment for me Confused

Right rabble rousing oppressive feminist me....

But yeah - make up, leg shaving, armpit shaving, boob jobs, botox....its all pretty much the same deal from where I am at.

ohhh except babies with ear piercings...that is a more serious thing imho.

IceBeing · 24/01/2014 10:29

hmmm I was going to say I don't think of people who have been swayed by the media bombardment / peer pressure as 'victims' but actually all those 13/14/15 year old girls who are desperate for boob jobs because they cannot stand their own bodies...I kind of do think that they are victims.

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