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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask how many of you have a 'natural' lady garden?

395 replies

ineedsomeinspiration · 18/01/2014 20:04

I used to sport the landing strip up until I was about 6 months pregnant with ds who is now 2. I stopped shaving as I couldn't see what I was doing, also might sound daft but kind of wanted it to be the way nature intended to give birth.
Since then I haven't shaved, waxed, trimmed etc. I'm not massively hairy so it's not a full on 80s style bush.
DP moaned the other day as he liked it the way I used to have it. Hmm. I sort of told him tough luck it's my bits and quite frankly I cba and like not having itchy stubble. He watched our Baby come out of there fgs surely he realises it's not a fashion accessory?
AIBU to not make the effort for dp?

OP posts:
JapaneseMargaret · 20/01/2014 07:49

I give mine a general tidy up about twice a year.

I have to say, I'm not really sure how some of your partners administer oral sex, TBH. Grin

You can go au naturel, and being in the receiving end of oral sex just fine. The hair doesn't need to be in the way, if you don't want it to be. In fact, if it is, I'd suggest some brushing up of skills.

Besides, you'd almost think that this generation of hair-removers had invented oral sex. Grin cunnilingus has been around since time immemorial; certainly since well before the fashion for whipping it all of. People managed just fine. :)

JapaneseMargaret · 20/01/2014 07:51

Oh, and no-one's saying that you, individually, remove your pubic hair due to porn.

But rather, that the fashion for pubic hair removal has been influenced by porn.

If you can't understand the difference, well, I can't help you.

NCISaddict · 20/01/2014 08:16

I used to have everything waxed off and I prefer the feel of it but now it's too expensive. Do trim and shave although not totally though as can't be bothered although would like to remove the luxuriant growth around the back.
Since getting into menopausal years my pubic hair is escaping down my thighs and I fear it may take over if left to it's own devices Grin
I've also found the hairs around my nipples are growing much longer as are the hairs on my chin, I seem to be constantly wielding the tweezers, the joys of getting older!

GhettoFabulous · 20/01/2014 08:23

In my disreputable single days I a had a younger man phase, several who had never seen full pubic hair on a woman. I certainly wasn't short of admirers. Although it made me laugh that I was perceived as exotic!

MostWicked · 20/01/2014 08:49

You can go au naturel, and being in the receiving end of oral sex just fine. The hair doesn't need to be in the way, if you don't want it to be. In fact, if it is, I'd suggest some brushing up of skills.

Hair doesn't get in the way of oral sex if you only stick to the area where no hair grows.
If you want oral sex to extend to where the pubic hair is, then this is very different with and without hair. If you are suggesting that this is the wrong way of giving oral, then I would suggest a little more experimentation of skills.
There is no right or wrong here - only different preferences.

randomAXEofkindness · 20/01/2014 09:12

I'm totally au-natural.

Many moons ago, when I met dh, I used to be clean shaven. I was self conscious about my body the way it was, I thought that he would like it better, I thought I was fulfilling some sort of male porn fantasy - giving myself an edge. It was all nonsense.

When I had pfb I didn't bother for a bit. Dh stopped mid sex, looked down at my rather abundant bush and said "Oh my god, you look so sexy - I love it". I'd like to say I decided to stop shaving as a noble feminist 'up yours', but I didn't. I did it because my husband was more attracted to genitalia that looked like it belonged to a fully grown woman rather than a five year old girl (and at that time my shaved vulva hadn't looked at all dissimilar to my five year old vulva).

I've thought a lot more about it since though. I have a much healthier view of my own body/sexuality now and I would be appalled at the notion that I should have a 'styled' vulva, or anything else to be found 'acceptable'. I am also outraged that my dd/ds might one day be pressured to change their bodies to be considered acceptable or attractive.

I have the same pov on beards too. I can't believe how many women are turned off by beards. Men have facial hair. Oh, and sweat. Human's smell like humans, why do people need to smell like nothing or chemicals to be considered an acceptable sex partner?

It's a fine balance. People own their own bodies and have a right to modify them however they choose. People also have a right to not feel pressured into modifying their own bodies to be found acceptable by their lover or society. It seems like the attitudes of the sex industry/advertising and some of those lay people who do put the right to modify their genitals into practice are making it increasingly difficult for everyone else to preserve the right to not modify and still be accepted.

MostWicked · 20/01/2014 10:26

I have the right to find beards a turn off, just like your DH has the right to find your bush a turn on.
Fresh sweat is fine, BO is not. Both are natural.

The vast majority of women on this thread, who have said that they trim, shave or wax, have made it clear that they do so for their own benefit and preference, not to succumb to any pressure that their body isn't acceptable to their lover.

In exactly the same way that you have made the enlightened choice to keep your bush as nature intended (presumably your legs and arm pits too), others make the enlightened choice to de-hair from the armpits down.

Why is the assumption that if you shave, you have given in to pressure or fashion? Why can it not be a free and liberated choice?

randomAXEofkindness · 20/01/2014 10:59

You have a right to find beards a turn off. But it is a shame that a perfectly wonderful man would have to modify his body for you to find him attractive. I've got to be honest, if a man came on and said that he just couldn't get turned on by a woman who hadn't had breast implants, I'd think he had issues.

It can be a liberated choice to de-fuzz, but if you think that that is why every woman does it, you're being daft.

Since fresh sweat usually smells of nothing, I'll presume that by BO you mean 'a body with some natural odour'?

Elfhame · 20/01/2014 11:06

I never mow my lady garden. Too lazy.

Scarletohello · 20/01/2014 11:09

Thought i would share this interesting article about the backlash against women shaving. Led by Cameron Diaz of all people..!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/19/year-of-the-bush-female-body-hair-cameron-diaz-pubic

randomAXEofkindness · 20/01/2014 11:23

Great article.

Fleta · 20/01/2014 11:28

Mine isn't au natural. It isn't for any reason other than personal preference.

I have very delicate skin, with a real tendancy towards eczema. I found, very early on, that if my bush grew free, I tended towards painful breakouts at the top of my legs. So I wax, pluck and keep it trimmed back so a length that works for me. OH doesn't get a say in it Grin

I could leave it natural. But that would be incredible painful and I'm not prepared to flagellate myself to forward some faux feminist agenda that has no bearing on this part of my life.

summertimeandthelivingiseasy · 20/01/2014 11:46

I have only ever shaved the ones at the side because it is socially unacceptable to be seen in a swimsuit with pubes sticking out. Thankfully, the high leg ones of the '80s are gone, and you can get cozzies that go down further at the front. But they now go up further at the back, so that is another problem Hmm

BradleyCoopersCurlyPerm · 20/01/2014 11:59

Eh? Of course I want to be licked where the hair grows!!! Oral pleasure extends beyond the clit FFS! It's like only taking the head of a penis in your mouth and ignoring the rest of the area around.

But if other people enjoy it differently then fine!

confuddledDOTcom · 20/01/2014 12:24

I shave what's on my legs and belly. Only reason I shave my belly is it irritates my scar otherwise. My legs are usually done because I like the feel of smooth legs in bed.

Sallyingforth · 20/01/2014 13:00

some faux feminist agenda
I fail to see anything faux about leaving a natural female body in a natural female state.
You are welcome to shave if you want, it's your own body. But a shaved body is the faux state.

HelloBoys · 20/01/2014 13:09

42 - had a Hollywood before then Brazilian recently all for the sake of a new man.

he does sometimes shave his lower regions (it makes it look bigger?!) and says he prefers trimmed or brazilian.

for now in first flushes of lust/lurve I'll do it, however down the line.... maybe not.

used to have full on 70s bush and trimmed to triangle for holidays/BFs etc

MostWicked · 20/01/2014 15:23

But a shaved body is the faux state

As are plucked eyebrows, shaved legs & armpits, deodorant, make-up, hairstyles, jewellery, hair colour, most clothing, perfume.....

and a whole host of other temporary things that we do to our body because we like the way it feels or looks.

BradleyCoopersCurlyPerm I couldn't agree with you more!

Since fresh sweat usually smells of nothing, I'll presume that by BO you mean 'a body with some natural odour'?

Yes, the type that smells horrible. Fresh sweat is fine. Stale sweat stinks to high heaven and is a total turn off.
Does that make me really shallow because I expect my husband to shower, use deodorant and shave? I don't like the feel of beards at all!

MamOfSteel · 20/01/2014 15:31

I would like to have less but tbh everytime I've tried to shave its been okay till the next day then its a bumpy, spotty, itchy mess that resembles the uncooked skin of a freshly plucked chicken. Not sexy.

so I just leave it now, occasional trim and maybe I'll shave the undercarriage if I fancy some particular action.

MamOfSteel · 20/01/2014 15:32

I'm 29 btw and never waxed either.

Joysmum · 20/01/2014 16:10

bradleycooperscurleyperm the voice of reason.

I like not getting pubes in my mouth. I like my man being more sensitive due to hair not getting in the way and that goes for both of us.

I've been anywhere from clean shaven to fully bushy and clean shaven is the most satisfying sexually because it feels fab. So much sensitivity is lost with hair between you and the touch.

ladypete · 20/01/2014 17:33

Not here I'm afraid. Wax wax wax. I am quite young though and within my circle eau naturelle is a no no!

Sorry.

Thants · 20/01/2014 17:49

Ladypete why is it a nono?

MamOfSteel · 20/01/2014 18:18

Ladypete. How do you know its a nono for all your friends? Have you seen all their vulvas? Or discuss them alot? Genuinly curious.

Fleta · 20/01/2014 18:20

I fail to see anything faux about leaving a natural female body in a natural female state.
You are welcome to shave if you want, it's your own body. But a shaved body is the faux state.

sallyingforth - you misunderstand me. The "fauxness" I refer to is the fact that in some circles (I've read on other forums - not visited the feminism topic on MN so can't comment) that there isn't an either/or. They work on the basis that "if you shave you're not a feminist" - and that is the faux agenda to me.

Sure, if you were with a man and he said that he is only willing to have sex if you shave, THEN it becomes moreso, but I think there are people who refuse to accept that shaving/hair removal can be for a variety of reasons.