to think older teens should be made to watch what an abortion is in PHSE. (sorry possibly triggering)

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I know this may be controversial but I have thought this for some time.
Abortion is legal in this country but still straight forward , informative talks about it are clouded by morality and judgement and at the end of the day, sometimes people need to have one in tragic circumstances i.e people who are made critically ill by pregnancy.
And are often as well as already scared and sad, i don't think most people make this decision lightly, are woefully underprepared which i'm sure must only add to emotional trauma.
and of course there are too many potential uninterested fathers who just utter 'get rid of it' at the hearing of potentially being a father, so disgustingly flippantly like throwing a crisp packet in the bin, I do think if they especially had seen a medical video of the procedure, well i think the number of people who just thrown that term around would be significantly less, if they had actually seen that image with their own eyes , and would be less detached from the idea and process.
I'm talking older teens , like 16+ here , not 11 year olds.
my mum and i have always though this, i would find it traumatising and pretty shocking, but compared to people who feel shame, go backstreet putting themselves at risk and people who go through with pregnancies they did not want/need. Surely a bit of discomfort is better then that being a legacy of another generation.

YANBU OP. I expect you also want to show videos of neglectful parenting and abject poverty? You know, just to show what the alternative would be?

sally it depends on the procedure, I had a termination at 9 weeks and was kept awake through the whole thing and it has scarred me for life, I was given gas and air through the procedure it hurt that much, there was a lot of blood a lot of horrible noises and it was very much so traumatic (this was through a private clinic too not nhs)

But what about people too scared to approach the Dr line runner? due to fear of the unknown.

Preventing an embryo from implanting is preventing pregnancy though, a device which removes the embryo after it is implanted would be ending the pregnancy. Some people are just fuzzy about the whole where does life begin thing?

Contraception (in the sense of preventing a pregnancy) can not include a termination, because it is ending the pregnancy, not stopping it from beginning.

Google 'abortion in the uk'. Best part of sixty eight million hits. First off being the NHS. Where it helpfully has a section entitled 'how an abortion is performed'.

That, I'm guessing, would be most young people's reaction to needing information.

Fear of the unknown? Try fear of having a child you don't want.

We had to watch a video of an abortion in year 10 at my school in RE (2006)
the baby was 26 weeks. it was horrific. We were 14/15 years old.

I wouldn't like to think people would be too scared to approach their doctor about anything, OP.

But what about people too scared to approach the Dr line runner? due to fear of the unknown
Well there is the internet. There is Marie Stopes. There are family planning clinics and their are private, anonymous clinics.
You don't actually need to see the GP. And these days of in private internet browsing, there is absolutely no need for anything to be 'the unknown'.

Northern did you not read I was a teen mother, I don't need to be patronised about things I had wide experience of.

But some people are Linerunner,

Yes but what's your point, OP?

What makes abortion different from, say, the removal of a cancerous structure or the fitting of orthodontic braces?

Stricture.

But hey. I'm on a kondle fire.

Going by your posts today there is no way you know about the situations and feelings that you are purporting too OP.

Yes TripTrap. I think we have all been skirting the actual logistics of the matter. Thanks for that!

So I'm not a teen mother? or had experience of an unwanted and unplanned pregnancy?

I've been berated for being 'insensitive' Northern that response was just as bad.

OPh whatever just have this thread deleted, some of the posts on here are unforgivable and aren't fit to breath to same fucking air to be frank.

If people where offended they could have asked what I meant not a never ending shit stream of unnecessary cruelty, I have been in tears tonight and not once played on dark stories of my past to garner sympathy from the onslaught I have received, just because I have not had one doesn not mean I have not been pressured, miscarried after a good beating from disapproving parents, there you go now I've lowered myself, I bid you goodnight MN.

Still not easy to see how the OP's OP would actually help teens avoid unwanted pregnancies. You speak of people being too afraid to approach their doctors, so how is compulsory viewing of an abortion going to help?

How will this help them with the dark thing of which you speak?

Ever so slightly dramatic op.

People disagreeing with you is not bullying and there really is no need to cry about it.

You have been incessantly asked what you mean, OP.

I don't think this thread should be deleted.

Posters did ask you, OP, what you meant.

If you want help and support because your mother and father beat you into a miscarriage, you will find it here. You will. If you are young and vulnerable, it must be hard and you will be helped.

just want to give saggy a cuddle and some love