to think older teens should be made to watch what an abortion is in PHSE. (sorry possibly triggering)

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I know this may be controversial but I have thought this for some time.
Abortion is legal in this country but still straight forward , informative talks about it are clouded by morality and judgement and at the end of the day, sometimes people need to have one in tragic circumstances i.e people who are made critically ill by pregnancy.
And are often as well as already scared and sad, i don't think most people make this decision lightly, are woefully underprepared which i'm sure must only add to emotional trauma.
and of course there are too many potential uninterested fathers who just utter 'get rid of it' at the hearing of potentially being a father, so disgustingly flippantly like throwing a crisp packet in the bin, I do think if they especially had seen a medical video of the procedure, well i think the number of people who just thrown that term around would be significantly less, if they had actually seen that image with their own eyes , and would be less detached from the idea and process.
I'm talking older teens , like 16+ here , not 11 year olds.
my mum and i have always though this, i would find it traumatising and pretty shocking, but compared to people who feel shame, go backstreet putting themselves at risk and people who go through with pregnancies they did not want/need. Surely a bit of discomfort is better then that being a legacy of another generation.

Coco/OP/whoever else you're pretending to be, just stop. Saggy has been brutally honest. She didn't have to be and doesn't deserve this.

Wittier that was a courageous post. I hope you are now in a much happier place.

sorry, haven't read the full thread, but I was made to watch a video of an ultrasound scan during an abortion at a Catholic secondary school, around age 15. It was hideous and unnecessary.
Have you ever been forced to watch such a video op?
I don't think guilt tripping young adults into not having an abortion is the right way to deal with a high level of terminations.

I dont owe anyone an apology tbh I have been goaded and lied about the entire thread. Had people aapologised about claiming im a religious pro lifer in constant evidence otherwise is unforgivable tbh.

wittiernickname

If your story doesn't highlight the fatal flaw in the OP's idea, I don't know what does.

yes great another way to make women feel guilty about having a termination

when I had a termination there were magazines in my room showing pictures of aborted foetus made no difference to how I felt about what I was doing why should it I did not want to carry on with the pregnancy end of discussion as far as I am concerned as I have and should always have control over my body

You know when you see a bird on a pond, and it quacks...I call that a duck.

Actually - would the OP kindly come back and inform us as to whether or not there is a religious background or a religious belief behind her post?

I find most people who want to make abortion some kind of women bashing moral/sexual shitty hitting stick can't manage an ounce of empathy or logically defend their views

I think straightline you maybe need to admit that you have hugely backtracked from your op?

And that's the root of the issue isn't it, Freudian. Ownership of one's own body. A novel idea in some quarters.

Hey saggy, you are tremendous.

NO I AM NOT RELIGIOUS. Again rtfd read sallysilicones post.

Thanks tweasels and Snakey
It was 13 ish years ago now. I was with the 'new dp' I mentioned for 10 years, and we had 2 gorgeous sons together. :)

The sad thing is taking out the OP and subsequent drivel, I think that actually, there might be a point to this thread.
Sex education/PHSE should cover EVERYTHING. Im not talking graphic images, in depth exploration into techniques, but all options available and a basic précis of where to get help and what to expect. That way, youngsters brought up with religious or judgemental families who would give them no help can get an unbiased view.
So technically, I agree with the underlying gist of the thread.
Sadly, the OP hasn't done herself any favours.
And no OP, Im not PRO LIFE. Im very much PRO CHOICE.
I may have chosen NOT to terminate my PG, but I have spent a lot of time here lately supporting women in similar situations making the opposite decision.
Can I suggest that you take some time to clear your head, read through your posts and the whole thread, do a little research and then maybe start another thread which is more carefully and sensitively written?
Maybe make some notes first so that your point doesn't get so muddled.

I just flicked upthread and read saggys post. You are amazing

I think you're being far too considerate saggy, it's a shame the OP can't return the favour.

Saggy you sound like an amazing women.

saggy I don't want to be patronising but I want to let you know that your post really moved me and that I hope you and your baby enjoy the best possible outcome for the challenges you face. I read the OPs comments as being very very naive at best and just assumed she was very young and still very arrogant. I hope she rereads your post and learns a little compassion and grace.

Considerate? I've been accused over and over and over again of being a religious pro lifer , I AM NOT, and to continue to lie and accuse someone of someone especially after I disclosed I challenged pro life images I saw on fb is pretty unforgivable and way , way too far over the line to be okay.

People are fine to say its a bad Idea, ok fine,. I haven't attacked anyone who has disagreed purely for those reasons, I have defended myself against wrong accusations.
The people who have shared personal stories are very brave and powerful, If anyone has read my OP and thought, she wants to shame people out of abortions, then I apologize that was not my intention at all.
I apologize to anyone who felt this was anything pro life, I truly am not.
I can imagine some people will not have the good grace to do the same.

Coco - that's a description that's been applied to me before. I quite like it tbh. Did you mean it as an insult? Sorry it's misfired a bit. Do try again if you like.

So did you mean to type something like this in your OP:
'AIBU to think we should give young women (and young men) more information in sex education; specifically about how to access an abortion and what the procedure and aftercare might entail, in the context of a wider discussion about the choices that can be made with regard to sex and pregnancy?'

But you just, I dunno, aren't very good at expressing your point of view?

Northern

yea Hop, so the emotion and taboo is taken out and as matter of fact as possible , so its seen as another form of contraception, not this dark thing that no-one wants to talk about.

Contraception prevents pregnancy. Termination ends it. Two different things and termination is NOT a dark thing nobody talks about. Some people talk about it entirely too much.