to have expected this woman to remove her tantruming child?

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Went out for Sunday dinner with two friends. They were sat next to each other and I was sat opposite so my chair was in the middle (not sure if that's completely relevant but don't want to drip feed)

We were sat on a higher tier of the restaurant (3 steps). A woman with 2ish year old (could have been a little younger) walked up with a friend and her baby when her ds started to throw a huge tantrum and dropped to the floor right next to me.

As my chair was in the middle and not on the edge he really was right next to me screaming and crying and she left him there for a good few minutes and went to sit down before picking him up.

Now I was in a family friendly restaurant and don't care about children throwing tantrums or crying (it's expected) and with a tantrum its usually best ignored but I think in this situation she should have been quicker to pick him up and remove him from our table?

No it wasn't aimed at you hence why I put OTHERS who have advocated it. Just pointed out to you that others on this thread had been a tad dramatic too. HelloBoys at least Costa kid had the decency to apologise. I encountered a child recently that was hitting every child/adult he could find in the queue. When I told his mum got told "well he's only 4 so we'll leave it shall we". Me "No we won't. Ds is only 4 too I Still manage to control him whilst we are out". I got a mouthful of abuse for it of her. I gave as much as I got much to my DNs embarrassment . At least next time. She will think twice about letting her kid do what he pleases and not expect other members of the public to pull her up. Now if child who couldn't keep his hands and feet to himself had been 2 I would have shrugged it off and thought no more about it.

although I do appreciate that Restaurants are different settings. Oh personally. Im thinking its a Wetherspoons OP was in. Hope they clarify if they ever come back...

Hello,

Why insult the toddler? That's the parents fault

Misspixietrix the Costa kid DID NOT apologise neither did parents.

if other kids have kicked or whatever usually parents or kids apologise.

If I push in etc by mistake/in a hurry etc I always try to apologise especially to kids no matter how young as this sets a good example.

I would not insult the toddler but they have to know that kicking someone nastily when out is NOT ON.

Tantrum is somewhat different.

Sockreturning - I wouldn't insult toddler to his/her face but would judge a bit. mean I know. Well it depends if you've just been kicked hard what would you think/say?

in cold light of day I'd just think it was kids being kids. depends how old the child is too. if toddler this excusable to kick etc, from 3-4 onwards they should be told off.

I would definitely pick up my child and take him outside. I don't agree with the comments about the tantrum lasting longer because in this instance there are other people in the restaurant to consider.

cold have you read the thread?

It's not about the tantrum itself. The op was annoyed because the child's mother didn't try to move him away from the op. She says the tantrum didn't bother her. Personally I would expect the parent to at least try to pacify/move the child/quieten them down, I don't think it's fair to not do. But children do tantrum, that's life. If the parent is doing what they can to stop them then it's nobody else's business.

If the parent was sat on their arse ignoring it I'd be most pissed off tbh, and I think most people would. That's not being disabling, judgemental or anything else. It's just reasonable not to expected to tolerate somebody's bad behaviour, be they child or adult.

Exactly lady