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to get the rage at thin-ist comments?

287 replies

BasicFish · 03/01/2014 23:26

Am I??

Seriously, just over the last few days, I've seen so many comments slating thin women and it's starting to piss me off. I would never dream of making sizeist comments, firstly because I don't think being a certain size (or not) makes you attractive.

But a brief list of the thin-ist comments I've come across this week.

"Most men don't go for size 8s"
"It would be like shagging a folding deckchair"
"some skinny little cow"
if he wants you to lose that much weight and be that slim, he must be gay"

etc..

If anyone tried to same the same about, say, size 18s they'd be slaughtered and rightly so. So why is it ok to pick on women who are slim? Not "anorexic" (unless they really are of course, which is a completely different issue), women who are just naturally slim and small. Why? WHHHYYY??

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WorraLiberty · 03/01/2014 23:52

Fat people "Stuff their faces"

Thin people "Push half a lettuce leaf around a plate"

Negative, ignorant stereotyping but sadly I still hear it at times.

OrangeFizz99 · 03/01/2014 23:53

Isn't everyone essentially naturally slim? I'm pretty sure being obese isn't natural.

lookingfoxy · 03/01/2014 23:56

Yes yanbu im a skinny 'bitch' that also actually eats, I would love a few extra curves but im just not made like that, it really gets me down when people go on about my weight, I would never bring somebody elses weight up and think its bloody rude when its done to me.

trashcanjunkie · 03/01/2014 23:56

because there is no 'natural' - ie unless you have an underlying medical issue, it's down to intake vs expenditure.

can I just re-iterate, I don't think it's ever ok to be 'sizist' or to comment unkindly on peoples shape

trashcanjunkie · 03/01/2014 23:57

orangeFizz99 yes, that's what I'm saying rather uneoquently

SpeedData · 03/01/2014 23:58

Personally I am genuinely uninterested in how thin or fat people are. It isn't important. I notice if people look really unhealthy in either direction, but that's pretty unusual. And I get v cross & upset when others comment on my body shape.

InTheRedCorner · 03/01/2014 23:59

This thread feels nasty.

We all eat. I eat what I eat and others eat what they eat.

I believe a lot of my weight non gain is due to my up bringing - yay to my shit young life.

Hmm

I'm probably not the right person on this thread but I'm slim, gave birth to 3 DDs after 11 pregnancies and yawn BF those I got to hold.

Excrete, eat well and till full and love life.

SugarHut · 03/01/2014 23:59

I'm teeny. I think people find it ok to make snidey comments because the Great British public don't deal well with anyone who appears to fit the criteria of being something stereotypically "desirable." If someone is wealthy, they love to hear stories about them being an arsehole. If someone is pretty they love to wax lyrical about how he/she is probably thick as two short planks. Thin? God forbid. You must live a miserable life on lettuce and carrot peel. It's all excuses to make out what the "desirable" person is/has, is not what they would want to be (despite the truth usually being desperately to the contrary). "Well, she might be a size 6, but who wants to be a slave to the gym, eating rabbit food, obsessed with herself?" translates as "I wish I was smaller, but by belittling her and making fun of her size, I can act like I'm not that way because it's a horrible way to live, and by doing so, mask the reality which is I'm too lazy to exercise or diet"

annieorangutan · 04/01/2014 00:00

There definitely is a natural size you gravitate towards. Im really slim and my whole family are the same I couldnt be a size 12 unless I ate about 6000 calories a day.

DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 04/01/2014 00:00

I see this everywhere.

This 'real men like curves' business.

No, 'real' men like women for who they are not what fucking size they are.

And all this 'we're real women^ ' stuff. What are slim girls then... Fakes?

I'm a size 14 so not slim at all, but it grates on me when my size 6 friend feels bad because she's being told 'real' women have curves.

EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin · 04/01/2014 00:00

YANBU.

When i was size 16 - almost two stone overweight - no one said a thing about it.

Now I'm a size ten - BMI 19 - I am getting constant criticism and 'worried' comments from friends/family.

"But you're too thin!"

"What example are you setting dd?"

"I think you looked prettier with curves."

"It's not normal to exercise everyday. I think you have an obsession."

"I feel like i can't eat around you anymore in case you're silently judging me."

And then pointing out 'disgusting, painfully thin' women (yes, always women, never men strangely enough) we pass in the street.

Sizeism exists on both end of the spectrum. But from personal experience, it's more socially acceptable to voice criticism for those on the thinner end than the larger.

I also have seen the throwaway comments about thin women on here that you mentioned.

Yet the moment someone says anything remotely similar about a larger sized woman, they are quite rightly flamed.

InTheRedCorner · 04/01/2014 00:02

Lol excrete.

Exercising also helps Smile

BasicFish · 04/01/2014 00:03

HoneyDragon Here you go,

Some comments on this one

And this absolute gem of a comment Grin

Men who only fancy very thin women are usually closet gay, men who like women would be happy with a 2 stone gain ( on a slim frame) as it means more boobs and bum

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DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 04/01/2014 00:03

'Only dogs go for bones' another horrible comment.

People find fault whatever size people are. Too fat, too thin, if you're a perfect size then you've probably got something else someone will have to feel the need to comment on...

As long as you feel good, and are reasonably healthy, who gives a shit

I mention the health thing because we're also being told lately that we should accept plus sizes as the norm. We should if it's a natural body shape, not if it's down to bad eating habits and lifestyle.

boodles · 04/01/2014 00:04

I fucking hate it and it is something I am getting a lot recently. I have been obese and, at the moment, I am very slim. No one once said anything about my weight when I was obese, now I am very slim I seem to be fair game. If we go out I get told to eat more, or is that all I am going to eat etc etc. I wouldn't dream of asking any of my larger friends if they really should be having that desert or something equally rude.

Also why do slim people have to justify their weight by saying that they are 'naturally slim'. As if it is only ok to be slim if it is you eat a lot and can't help it. I am slim because I watch what I eat nothing silly, about 2300 cals a day) and work out (lots of cardio and I lift heavy too, hence being able to eat quite a few cals and say slim). Should I be apologising because I keep my weight as it is by being careful? Fuck no.

My body, my choice.

Thants · 04/01/2014 00:05

Insulting any persons body is nasty and usually sexist.
But it is silly to say that most of this is aimed at thin women. It is far, far more common to here and read people insulting larger bodies. Both are wrong.

Lamu · 04/01/2014 00:06

trashcan I have to disagree with you there. I am naturally thin. I think genetics also plays a part.

I come from a family of giants, my aunt is still a size 8 after 5 children. I'm the shortest at 5.9. We are all fairly long limbed and thin. My weight flactuates between 51-55 kg. I eat what I want when I want but when I'm full I stop. I don't exercise much these days but I used to run long distance.

EweHaveGoatToBeKiddin · 04/01/2014 00:06

Completely agree with everything about boodles post.

WorraLiberty · 04/01/2014 00:08

Another comment I hate hearing from both men and women is, "She's got no boobs".

Errm...unless she's had a double mastectomy, then yes she has. They just happen to be small. Hmm

trashcanjunkie · 04/01/2014 00:08

I had a friend who was very underweight. She frequently claimed that she couldn't cope with her dcs and that her mind was 'mush' and she couldn't think straight

She says she eats a lot of chocolates and cake and big meals but what I have seen is she actually will have half of a cupcake/muffin thingy for her breakfast, whilst feeding some of that to her child, and literally demolishes the leftovers into little pieces which are left on the plate then chucked away. She will then go until three or four in the afternoon and will eat an egg custard in the same way. She will have a 'large' meal in the evening which will be home cooked (by her dp) and she will make a big presentation of eating it whilst actually jumping up and down from the table, totally chopping up the entire plateful, putting tiny morsels in her mouth, chewing and chewing for ages and leaving most of the plate.

She genuinely believes that she eats loads of big meals and stuffs her face with cakes and chocolates.

playavsnow · 04/01/2014 00:08

I got the comments when I was younger. I did a lot of sport (but ate well) and was then size 8 (with smaller still waist), am much older now and size 8-10 with size 8 waist.

Some people would say they were envious. But other people would be quite horrid. It was mostly women, and I was once asked if I was anorexic (what would they have then said had I been?) Others would say I ought to eat something, expressing faux concern.

trashcanjunkie · 04/01/2014 00:09

lamu the thing is if you stop when you are full, doesn't that mean that you just don't over eat? So if you did over eat, you would gain weight. I think it's semantics.

DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 04/01/2014 00:10

I don't think that's the case and all thants. I just think comments about thin women are much more passive aggressive and aren't seen as insults when they actually are.

SpeedData · 04/01/2014 00:12

Why are you arguing this point trashcan? Yes of course there are people in the world with unhealthy and skewed attitudes to food. That doesn't make it ok to make hurtful and critical comments about anyone's body. Confused

Angus99 · 04/01/2014 00:12

DW is at the very low end of her healthy weight range. Always has been. Even after giving birth to our DS she dropped right back down and if anything in her 40s is smaller than ever. But her favourite food is potatoes, particularly my goose fat roasted ones. I recently got her to eat sprouts.. By slathering them in butter and bacon.
So by many people's reckoning she is lucky and on balance I believe she feels lucky these days. (I would not usually deign to speak for her, but she is asleep right now).
But, I know she has had low self-confidence about her body in the past and gets annoyed by other people's attitudes. Sometimes these are of the simply negative variety, others of the 'its alright for you' type and sometimes the explicit suggestion she has an eating disorder.
Confidence issues and size ism does cut both ways.