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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

247 replies

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

OP posts:
maddy68 · 30/12/2013 12:15

And breathe ...... You did nothing wrong at all, they are ungrateful selfish arses.

DameDeepRedBetty · 30/12/2013 12:15
Shock

RIDING MUDDY BIKES INDOORS???

Yanbu, and poor little darlings, they'll have to find another source of free holidays and free helpers.

FrankelInFoal · 30/12/2013 12:16

You sound like a saint for putting up with their behaviour.

Morgause · 30/12/2013 12:18

Your poor DH is a saint. Tell your dreadful family to treat him with more respect.

I wouldn't have them back any time soon.

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2013 12:18

I think you were more than restrained and if they ever ask you what the problem is I suggest you tell them.

I'd stay away as long as is practicable and I would then have very limited contact.

tinytalker · 30/12/2013 12:19

You are NOT being unreasonable! They sound very selfish and are acting like spoilt brats! Don't be a doormat or you will always be regarded as one and they will bring you down, why should your Xmas be spoilt by them in your own home?! If I were you I would start making alternative Xmas arrangements for next year!! And yes I would actively 'take a break' from them.

AnUnearthlyChild · 30/12/2013 12:19

Poor you op

It sounds horrendous. I'd cut contact for a while.

Pmsl at face like a stopped clock though!

issey6cats · 30/12/2013 12:20

i would be booking myself and my husband a nice holiday somewhere abroad next year for christmas they sound like a right pair of entitled selfish ungrateful mares your poor dad

NorthernLebkuchen · 30/12/2013 12:20

No yanbu. You and dh should immediately go out for a lovely posh lunch as a treat to yourselves for being nice people.

HerlockSholmes · 30/12/2013 12:20

YANBU, they sound like utter twunts.

hopefully your dad will tell them why you wont be visiting and they may start to see how awful they are. don't give it another thought and make an effort to see your dad for a cuppa or whatever.

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 30/12/2013 12:20

You are not being at all unreasonable! Just don't invite them again and maybe see less of them. If they ask why, point out their faults!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 30/12/2013 12:21

God, I would have been digging up the patio to dispose if the bodies! Definitely have a break from them and book Xmas away next year.

iggymama · 30/12/2013 12:24

Fuck going to visit them, either spend the time relaxing at home with DH or take yourselves off to a nice hotel and get waited on for a few days.

FunkyBoldRibena · 30/12/2013 12:25

Crikey - they sound intolerable. I'd have helped her put the stuff in the car a few days early to be honest.

Slipshodsibyl · 30/12/2013 12:25

Gosh they sound odd. I too think a Christmas holiday for the two of you would be a good idea next year.

IloveJudgeJudy · 30/12/2013 12:26

No, YA absolutely NBU. Muddy bikes, in the house! That wouldn't happen here. How dare they? I think you and DH need to stand up to them all a bit more. It's your house. I also think that, with some people, the more you accommodate them, the more they want to take. It's a bit like a job I used to do. I sometimes had lunch at my desk as there wasn't a staffroom, if the weather was bad or I didn't feel like goin out. One of my bosses would always ask me to do stuff. Well, one day, I just told him it was my lunch break and I would do the work afterwards. he never asked me again and it made no difference to anything else at work. I just needed to stand up to him.

Please don't put up with this behaviour. Your sister has much more to lose than you do here. She is acting like a child, so I would treat her like one. Sometimes children need strict boundaries and the imposition of these improves their behaviour. Perhaps your sister needs being made aware of, or reminded of, what you do/have done for her?

Good luck with whatever you decide. I know it's hard, but sometimes the results are great if you put your foot down.

Bowlersarm · 30/12/2013 12:26

YANBU

But I had to laugh at arrives with a face like a stopped clock Grin - brilliant - I've never heard that before.

Sorry for derailing OP.

stickysausages · 30/12/2013 12:27

Yanbu. Take a break, they'll need you before you need them.

YouTheCat · 30/12/2013 12:27

Time to say 'no more'. Stop inviting them. Don't take them on holiday. If they sulk, let them.

Tell your dad he is always welcome if he needs a break.

JumpingJackSprat · 30/12/2013 12:33

Stop being a mug. No more holidays.

oldgrandmama · 30/12/2013 12:33

I was going to say 'Jesus wept!' but that's not nice, especially this time of year ... however, what the bloody HELL are you sister and mother thinking, behaving like that? Totally, totally out of order and, to be frank, dreadful behaviour. You are positively a saint - generous, kind, hospitable and fankly, mum and sis are taking the piss - the sis's kids are victims of their upbringing, obviously allowed to do what they like and oh boy, won't your sister regret it a few years down the line Grin

I would DEFINITELY DEFINITELY NOT have them back any time soon and that includes next Christmas. And yes, don't visit during the holidays as you'd planned - stick to your guns.

Meanwhile, I'm sending you and your husband a cyber medal for being so restrained and not booting the lot of them OUT on Boxing Day! Ungrateful, crass, thoughtless and, sorry, pretty stupid relatives. They should be appreciating you as a thoughtful, loving and caring, not to mention generous and welcoming person, not treating you like that. Avoid sister, be cool with your mother. See how it goes. But may I reiterate - next Christmas, have it on your own, with your lovely husband.

storynanny · 30/12/2013 12:34

Bikes indoors on carpet? Now ive heard it all, how rude of them to be so disrespectful. All of my children are muddy sporty bike mad boys but they never brought anything with mud into the house. Even when they were 3 years old they understood that .
Cant think anyone on this site would disagree with you

milk · 30/12/2013 12:34

OMG Yes you 100% need a break from these monsters!!!

Next time please go on holiday with just you and DH and treat yourselves!!!

Motherinlawsdung · 30/12/2013 12:34

Another vote here for "face like a stopped clock". Best description ever. OP, you and your DH have the patience of saints. I would tell both your DM and DSis directly how badly they've behaved. It's unlikely that your DF will have the gumption to pass on the whole truth to them. Do spell it out to them, just as you have here.

Tailtwister · 30/12/2013 12:37

Crikey! YANBU at all. Tell them to do their own thing next Christmas.