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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

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newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

OP posts:
newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 15:59

DH just called to tell me that I have a letter in my mum's handwriting. I think it must be the lo-fi equivalent of the stroppy texts!

Thanks ladies.

OP posts:
SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 16:01

Oh please share contents op.
Are you going to allow your dh to open it?

MmeGuillotine · 30/12/2013 16:02

That's just a beautiful description.

I'm imagining your poor dad as a sort of Mr Bennet character, hiding in the library from his wife's 'nerves' and daughterly histrionics. ;)

IDugUpADiamond · 30/12/2013 16:06

Your sister is quite blatantly jealous of you. This will never change so you might as well stop looking after her needs because she'll never show any gratitude. You'll always be left feeling that despite all your efforts and good intentions, you've done everything wrong, you haven't done enough, you haven't done it in exactly the right way...

TheTeaLeaf · 30/12/2013 16:09

I think your sister sounds really unhappy actually, it can't be easy for her to be alone with two small dc, combine that with what sounds like a toxic mother dripping poison in her ears and this seems to be the result. If she's dependent on your Mum for a lot and sees a lot of her it maybe that she goes along with it all for a quiet life or is easily influenced because she's had it all her life. I would try and get her on her own and build things with her tbh.

Cerisier · 30/12/2013 16:09

Was your mum such a nightmare when you were growing up? She is enabling your DS's terrible behaviour and being disrespectful to you and DH. Bikes inside? Going against your DH when he gave instructions in his own house? Unbelievable.

Another vote for stepping back and leaving your DS to sort herself out. She sounds as if she is mired in misery and taking it out on you as an easy target. Her resentment of you is all the more shocking if she knows you have been trying for a family without success.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 16:15

When I get in this evening, I will read the letter and enlighten you on the contents.

OP posts:
SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 16:18

Ta muchly op!
Must go do something constructive now....
[Empty bins?]... Oh its the high life for me....

raisah · 30/12/2013 16:25

No more taking your sister on holidays until she learns some manners.

She is used to people obeying her commands & now needs to learn that everybody has a limit to their tolerance levels.

No more treats & limit contact to when absolutely necessary rather than because you feel sorry for them.
Build up your social life so that it doesn't revolve around them, it is hurtful when you realise that your family are awful.

Holdthepage · 30/12/2013 16:27

I often wonder what possesses people to behave this way? To take holidays, gifts, Christmas stays at someone else's expense & not even have the decency to be pleasant about it. I genuinely don't know what is wrong with these people.

Did you ever consider asking your sister what was wrong?

Your DH deserves a medal for putting up with that, & you both sound like the most generous people imaginable.

Cocolepew · 30/12/2013 16:29

You and your DH sound lovely.

But I know you say your Dad is suffering the consequences but does he say anything to your mum and sister to back you up?

My Dads mum was an awful woman but my dad always says how great his dad was. But he stood by and let my Granny drive away all 7 of her children.

You are a better person than me, I would have brained your mum and sister with the bikes!

Cocolepew · 30/12/2013 16:31

Oh and f you want your sisters DCs to have a nice holiday maybe you and DH could go somewhere with them?
Your Dsis could spend a nice time with her mum Smile.

Clutterbugsmum · 30/12/2013 16:41

One thing I would say is if you are still paying for your DN's nursery fees I would tell both your sister and the nursery in writing that you will not be paying after whatever date you choose, maybe just pay until the end of Janurary to give your sister time to sort out her own payment method.

And then stop being your mums/sister bank.

DameDeepRedBetty · 30/12/2013 16:50

I've re-read the OP just to be on the safe side, as I was beginning to wonder if you were my nice SIL. As opposed to my bonkers SIL, whose difficult relationship with her sister (Nice SIL) and mother (my MIL) seems eerily familiar to yours.

Luckily the children's ages and the fact that your dad is still with you means this is not the case.

It's taken her, and the rest of us, years to realise that the more we help, and make 'allowances', etc etc, the more outrageous they both get.

I actually bottled it this year. Nice SIL had arranged a session to exchange gifts at her house on Christmas Day, which is more in the middle of things than anyone else's. Midmorning I realised I just couldn't face it, I knew there'd be drama-llama-ing going on, and I thought 'sod it, it's MY christmas too!', so I invented a minor cooking crisis and sent the children and DP off on their own with a pile of presents and my apologies.

Apparently I missed a spectacular meltdown, luckily after DP had already brought our children home again.

Anyway, best of luck disengaging. And lots of love to your poor dad.

QuizteamBleakley · 30/12/2013 16:53

How bloody rude!

I think you & DH should adopt lots of children; you're clearly the loveliest people. It sounds like your sister is hugely jealous of you. What a cow.

I really hope your Mum has written you a lovely letter, telling you how sorry she is for being awful but I suspect that may not be the case.

OMG, your sister is a twunt.

2rebecca · 30/12/2013 16:54

I agree that passive husbands play their part in enabling histrionic wives. If he'd said no more often to her she wouldn't be as bad.
Adults like children need to be told when their behaviour is unreasonable. Your dad is not an innocent bystander in all this, he could have behaved like your husband but chose not to.
I would completely disengage for a while.

AcheyFanny · 30/12/2013 17:00

Love the stopped clock, never heard it before. My husband has it right now.

ExcuseTypos · 30/12/2013 17:01

You sound very kind OP. I do think you're being taken for a ride though and you need to take a step back. They might just start to appreciate you a bit!

SauceForTheGander · 30/12/2013 17:02

No good deed goes unpunished OP.

Family dynamics are seriously rocked by the generosity of a sibling. I think your DSis is feeling jealous, hard done by and projecting her bitterness onto you. Your DM sounds very childish.

My DSis only really likes me when I'm down on my luck. It's a strange sibling competitiveness taking hold.

AlpacaPicnic · 30/12/2013 17:16

Two points -

One - im glad your mum has written you a letter... Because if it's as whiny as I suspect it might be, listing all your 'faults' then you've got proof. And evidence to reread and remind yourself when you start to weaken...

Two - I am incredibly jealous that you have a house big enough to ride bikes inside! Can I come and live with you? I make excellente brownies and cheesecake and I love doing washing up...

diddl · 30/12/2013 17:23

I've got two teens to loan out-oldest no trouble-second fine if she can go horseridingGrin

OP, you do sound lovely & it's wonderful that you care so much for your nieces/nephews.

Think of yourself as well-spend time with just them if possible.

FixItUpChappie · 30/12/2013 17:25

Wow. Some of you have crazy fucking families ShockGrin

Needless to say, no, you are not being unreasonable OP.

Get your husband a spa day or something. Mine would have kicked them out the door I think and he has the patience of a saint.

breatheslowly · 30/12/2013 17:31

You sound lovely and your parents and sisters are not doing the children a kindness by indulging them. I'm quite a relaxed parent, but children do need some boundaries. Otherwise they will struggle at school and won't be invited to their friends houses twice.

bringbacksideburns · 30/12/2013 17:47

Your husband must have the patience of a saint. Not only did he have to suffer Christmas and have his family slagged off but he had had to endure Holidays with them too!!

I would definitely stop bankloading everything OP, as it's clearly not appreciated. Put yourself first as you clearly can't win.

Be prepared for some spectacular Passive aggression in the letter. Then i would reply to her saying that she was incredibly miserable throughout Christmas, never stopped moaning and never shows any appreciation for anything so you now will no longer bother as it's obviously a pain for her to be in your presence. And don't forget to tell her how pissed off you are with her slagging off your husband's family.
Keep your sister out of it, she sounds very unhappy and is clearly a product of your mum!

Then pour a stiff drink and have a long break - and don't invite them next year. Go on holiday.

onedev · 30/12/2013 17:59

Oh my goodness, that is horrendous. I agree that it sounds like a case that your sister and / or mum are jealous, which is a real shame given all you've done for them.

I'd completely disengage altogether as I couldnt handle that behaviour.

Well done to your DH for putting up with them - it's bad enough when it's your own family, but when it's the in-laws, it's 100 times worse!!