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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

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newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

OP posts:
HissymasJumper · 30/12/2013 18:02

That letter's not an apology. :(

I'd put money on it.

NorthernLebkuchen · 30/12/2013 18:09

I agree - the letter is likely to blame you for being:

better off than your sister

having a nice house

having a nice dh

being generous with your money and resources

being simply nicer than your sister

Ignore. Ignore. Ignore.

mineofuselessinformation · 30/12/2013 18:12

Whatever the letter says, repeat as needed 'you can all do as you like in your own homes. I've worked hard for what I have and like to keep it nice'.
Sounds like your dns will need you in years to come as a stable influence.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 18:13

So here's what was in the letter: mercifully short, but uses my full name rather than the usual family nickname (this is one of my mum's ways of showing displeasure, although it hasn't worked on me for approx. 15 years). Terse note says that since she is unlikely to see me before 3 January, she's sending me the receipt for some pyjamas they asked my sister to buy for me. Receipt expires then.

So, passive aggressive as some posters predicted. I think, if she wants to make herself miserable, let her.

DH and I have been able to have a good laugh about Christmas with our friends now that the horror has receded slightly!

In answer to some questions: my mum is lovely in many ways, but she is domineering and can't accept being disagreed with. It is met with sulking, fury and crying. It took me a long time to get out from under her thumb; I was in my late 20s by the time I managed it. When I challenge her now, which I do calmly, she says I'm "cold" (no crying or emotional displays) or "talking to your mother as if she was dirt".

My dad should stick up for me, I agree. When I was younger, my mum would use the threat of him losing my sister and I to keep him in order, or she'd behave badly then say, "don't you dare ruin Christmas for the kids" when he responded. So he learned to keep quiet and let it wash over him. He adores me, I'm the apple of his eye.

Like the sound of the stiff drink advice!

OP posts:
Topseyt · 30/12/2013 18:13

I am just committing the phrase "face like a stopped clock" to memory for future reference. Love it. Grin

Seriously though, their behaviour was appalling. You should be up for a gong in the New Year Honours list for putting up with any of it really.

Riding muddy bicycles on a cream carpet!!! Bloody hell, I would have thrown a hissy fit at them. Criticising your husband's family was also way out of order. That letter she has apparently written would be getting a very brisk reply from me, and I wouldn't be making much contact again for quite some time.

sicily1921 · 30/12/2013 18:34

They sound like the family from hell...after Satan kicked them out.

Seriously, they sound like selfish arseholes....riding a muddy bike across a cream carpet, this on it's own would be enough to give me a seizure.

NadiaWadia · 30/12/2013 18:38

I presume you have had the pyjamas and the receipt is in case you want to exchange them?

I wouldn't bother replying. Give yourself a break from them and let them stew!

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 18:40

Thanks for updating op.
A stiff, short little letter from your Mum. I can picture her all of a self righteous bristle!
Letter could have been a lot worse though not really expressing anything. I imagine your Mum expects this to just blow over and normal status quo to resume.
Be careful on that. Dignified silence re note. First proper move should be from them I think.

BusyLittleSpider · 30/12/2013 18:40

You do sound lovely OP and your mum and sister's behaviour is completely unacceptable.

That letter really shows their true colours, you deserve an apology not a passive aggressive guilt trip. Ignore it the best you can and definitely don't go out of your way again for them!

Hope you are your DH enjoy the rest of the festive period Wine

Lilacroses · 30/12/2013 18:40

Only read the first and last pages, sorry OP but just wanted to add another yanbu to the general throng! I am about the most relaxed housekeeping sort of person I know but even I wouldn't sanction riding muddy bikes in the house, let alone on a cream carpet! I do hope you get the break you are looking forward to!

LookingThroughTheFog · 30/12/2013 18:42

my mum is lovely in many ways,

Are you sure?

Did she at least thank you for hosting a lovely Christmas?

Dazoo · 30/12/2013 18:47

"Face like a stopped clock" is going to be my new "face like a slapped twat"

Obviously yanbu. Jesus!

notanotherusername1 · 30/12/2013 18:47

Another vote for 'face like a stopped clock' Grin will be using that myself

Have to agree with every single comment.

What might be nice if at all possible would be to take your long suffering dd out with you both for a meal, poor man sounds like he needs a break. Trouble is they might make his life uncomfy over it, can't be any worse than it is already for him.

MuddlingMackem · 30/12/2013 18:50

Cocolepew Mon 30-Dec-13 16:31:09

Oh and if you want your sisters DCs to have a nice holiday maybe you and DH could go somewhere with them?
Your Dsis could spend a nice time with her mum smile.

ohfourfoxache · 30/12/2013 19:06

Jesus, your poor dad and those poor kids - growing up with a mum like that Sad

Any chance you could see your dad on his own?

JugglingUnwiselyWithBaubles · 30/12/2013 19:19

Insisting to DH that they be allowed to ride their muddy bikes around inside, on your cream carpets, after he's asked them nicely not to - No, I'd say on balance YANBU Xmas Grin

My DM sometimes over-rules her adult children and their partners regarding DGCs behaviour - very frustrating.

You sound like a lovely Auntie and I hope, after a well earned break, that you'll be able to find a good way forwards with DM and DSis, especially for the children's sakes Xmas Smile

busyboysmum · 30/12/2013 19:21

YANBU in any way shape or form, how badly they behaved, I'm sorry they ruined your Christmas.

My thought would be to print off the 6 pages of this post and send it to both of them in an envelope without any other explanation. Maybe seeing their behavior commented upon by so many people will bring them to some kind of realization.

Hope you have a great New Year.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 19:45

Thanks ladies.

DH reminded me earlier that I also bought my sister a Phil & Ted's double buggy when she was pregnant with my niece, in fact DH and I drove her and our nephew to the shop to choose one, bought her a new bed when hers fell apart, hired a van to drive her to Ikea to collect a load of furniture.

Went into the delivery suite when my niece was born since my sister's then husband was AWOL, took a week's holiday and moved in with her after my niece arrived (to take care of nephew) and bought all the groceries/cooked every meal/cleaned the house whilst there.

Went and packed everything up for her before she moved house when my nephew, her eldest, was a baby. Took them on several holidays before this year.

Found the now ex-husband a flat to move into, paid the deposit, gave a reference. Bought her a DIY divorce kit and e-mailed her detailed instructions.

Ruddy Nora, I feel like a right mug! I'm glad I did those things, because they were acts of generosity to my family, but it's sad that they haven't been appreciated.

OP posts:
LookingThroughTheFog · 30/12/2013 19:56

I'm glad I did those things, because they were acts of generosity

I think this is key. You are doing these things by choice, and not because you are being manipulated or coerced into doing so. This is why you haven't ended up hating them, and that's a really good thing.

However, I think it is important that you make sure you're making a conscious choice each time you do something, just to protect yourself.

WhereBeThatBlackbirdTo · 30/12/2013 19:56

OP - you sound like a lovely, lovely person.

I always wanted a sister (got three brothers) - could I have you?!

Solongsucker · 30/12/2013 19:59

Have read this to my 12 year old son since he keeps asking... Whatcha doing? Everytime I laugh at something on mn.
They (dc) need some law and order. Put them in garden, with the granny!

JugglingUnwiselyWithBaubles · 30/12/2013 19:59

Don't feel like a mug, you're just a very nice person Xmas Smile

But you're right a little bit of appreciation would be nice too - such as DSis and her DC all saying thank-you AuntieNewYear on leaving - with prompting from DSis if necessary!

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 19:59

Thanks!

And thanks also for the laugh, because I got DH to play "blackbird I'll have he" by the Wurzels on the strength of one of the posters' names!

OP posts:
Quoteunquote · 30/12/2013 20:04

Take your dad on a short holiday, it sounds like he needs a break, and you would both benefit from some uninterrupted time together, offer to take your mum sometime next year.

scottishmummy · 30/12/2013 20:05

Oh my giddy aunt.what an ungrateful bunch
Fuck em
Indulge yourselves in some frippery,watch tv you like,fastidiously ignore them

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