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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

247 replies

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

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RandyRudolf · 30/12/2013 14:02

I feel exhausted just reading about your Christmas. You poor thing.

I think your NY resolution is to get tougher with them. No more holidays, they're milking you with their self pity.

Next year when they start discussing Christmas plans tell them you have booked to go away AND NO, THEY CAN'T JOIN YOU!

Your husband sounds a saint too, I don't think I would have been as controlled as he was.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 14:08

Any come back op re your chat to your Dad?
Think you need a relaxing New Year. They need to learn that just because you have the big house and perhaps perceived time because of no children does not mean they should be so entitled and ungrateful.
They are so out of order...
Nice hotel for Christmas and New year next year; maybe abroad.

HerrenaHarridan · 30/12/2013 14:11

What was that?

Next your spending Xmas in Australia?

Sounds like a fine plan to me Grin

youarewinning · 30/12/2013 14:12

Wow, just wow. YANBU. I think you and your DH deserve a medal. I mean who tells a homeowner to bring dirty blokes back indoors to be ridden.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 14:15

ooh err touarewinning.....

FrankelInFoal · 30/12/2013 14:18

Arf @ youarewinning's typo Grin

MrsPresley · 30/12/2013 14:21

Well if youarewinnings post doesn't cheer you up for a bit, nothing will Grin

Joules68 · 30/12/2013 14:22

also love 'face like a stopped clock' Grin

however,op,can I ask? do you ever see your mum and sister separately? is it ever different? sounds like they bounce off each other

Howstricks · 30/12/2013 14:23

Sounds like the dirtyblokes may have lightened up the day

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 14:26

Thank you ladies (and LOL at the dirty blokes!!!)

Your responses have cheered me up so much. Sometimes you think it's just you, don't you?

In response to the question about my behaviour to the littlies: I adore them. I'm not spouting rules at them. I put chocolate decorations on the tree for them to find and got toys, DVDs etc. ready. When I ask them not to do things it's e.g. "don't touch the candle darlings, it's burny" (when they climbed up onto the kitchen worktop) or "no more bangy doors, sweethearts, it's too noisy and you might hurt your fingers".

Once again, thank you. You are right I think - give them an inch and all that. They reserve the worst of it for me, I'm afraid; they have some other family members they torment too. One is my uncle, who was with us at Christmas (and thank god for him and my aunt - they really helped to lighten the mood). My mum, after a scotch on Christmas day afternoon, said to me in a stage whisper, "[uncle] isn't half boring, isn't he?". To which I replied, "No", thinking, at least he can be civil and nice when he's a guest in somebody's house!!

All this does rankle rather when I paid my niece and nephew's nursery fees for eighteen months and even arranged both my sister's wedding and her divorce!

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youarewinning · 30/12/2013 14:26

Whoops! Using my DS' iPad - and just proved why I shouldn't use modern technology!

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 14:27

Joules, just saw your note. Yes, they are better when they are apart although my sister always seems to be looking for a reason to take umbrage. I suspect that on some level she resents me for helping her.

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HECTheHeraldAngelsSing · 30/12/2013 14:32

Well, that's easily solved. Resolve never to help her again.

SongYee · 30/12/2013 14:32

What kind of idiot thinks it's ok to ride bicycles indoors?! That just takes the biscuit.

You've been far too nice, OP. I agree that your husband sounds like a saint. New Year's resolution: say NO!

BabyDubsEverywhere · 30/12/2013 14:32

I would have said you were a saint for the first holiday... the second one, you were a glutton for punishment, the xmas hosting makes you a bit of a sap tbh... I expect your dad is the same. I really don't mean to offend you but seriously - why would you stand by and let them treat you like this, why would you let them treat your DH like this? if this was about the inlaws mumsnet would be baying for you DH's blood for not putting a stop to such shitty behaviour at the first eye roll from the cheeky sods!

You need to take a massive step back from them OP

{I also need to take my own advice - fellow sap here! :( }

Meerka · 30/12/2013 14:38

you paid their nursery fees -and- arranged wedding and divorce? and took them on holiday?

That was incredibly kind and helpful but I think you need to take quite a step back, let her lead her own life from now on. She is either takign quite some advantage of you and returning nothing, or she -is- resentful (and still taking advantage) but perhaps less help might, in time, lessen the resentment.

and def no more christmases for a looong time.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 14:40

They want help/ support yet resent it too. Not a nice combination.
You need to be busy for a while and spend your money on having a good time.
Maybe they will realise what they have lost and behave a bit more respectfully towards you rather than expectantly...

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 14:42

You are right. I have been a sap. I make too many allowances for them, and I want the children to have nice holidays etc.

DH says that they are never coming to our house for Christmas ever again, and I agree!

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SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 14:45

Collect newspaper vouchers for them for Park holidays and the like and contribute them for their holiday.....

diddl · 30/12/2013 14:45

Surprised he hasn't said that they are not coming to your house ever again!

Instead of paying for their holidays, could you take the kids away for a couple of days or have days out with just the kids every so often?

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 14:46

Oh yes, on the second holiday - which was just awful, awful, awful - I did point out to my sister that I was surprised that she was so quick to stick the boot in, considering all the help I'd given her.

Her shrieked response was, "well, I'll pay it all back then, if that's what you want! It's all about money for you, isn't it?" (!!!)

My mum chimed in with, "what a wicked thing to do, casting all that in her face, all the money you've spent".

So that was a helpful discussion.

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2rebecca · 30/12/2013 14:48

I think arranging your sister's marriage and divorce sounds too much and think the family dynamics need to change. You need to stop being the capable sensible sister and step back from your sister and let her sort out her own life and stop being the flaky sulky one. Don't allow yourself to be typecast by them. You shouldn't behave badly to someone just because they are your family, you should be nice to them because they are your family.
Your family need to learn that if they aren't nice you don't see them.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 14:49

Yup vouchers are the way to go.. Daily Mail, Mirror, Sun.....
Get cutting..
Seriously though YOU need a break from being so unappreciated.

southbank · 30/12/2013 14:51

op you sound so nice but my god just stop!!
Your sister sounds horrendous,she's taking the piss out of you,you must surely see that?
You are purely a financial aid to her,stop paying for stuff for her.you dont need to arrange weddings,divorces etc.
Just stop being a doormat,and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
If your sister wants her children to go to a private nursery she pays herself or the childrens father pays,if she can't afford it tough.
Don't visit,don't host Xmas again,dont pay for holidays.
Spend your money on you-and enjoy it.

antimatter · 30/12/2013 14:58

Lack of concern about your house and your feelings show that they are extremely selfish.
I don't know what else you can do apart from giving yourself a break from seeing them for some time.