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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

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newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

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LookingThroughTheFog · 30/12/2013 14:59

NewYear, they sound like hard work, and no, you don't have to see them if you don't want to.

A term that's often used for the reason you still do things for people like this is FOG - Fear, Obligation, Guilt. If you are doing these things for them for those reasons, stop, and don't do it. If you want to see and contact them because you simply want to, then go for it.

But don't feel the need to put up with things just because they are your family. Families need to earn respect just like everyone else.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 14:59

Yes, I think I've reached the same conclusion! It's quite difficult to accept, isn't it, when you've been kind to somebody you love and they are ungracious and ungrateful in response.

After the second awful holiday I did tell my mum and my sister that I didn't think it was a good idea for me to go on holiday with them again.

Sister's reaction: tears and sulks.

Mum's reaction: guilt tripping. She said, "those children won't get a holiday now, because you always arrange it".

Didn't change my mind, though.

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Feelingscrewedup · 30/12/2013 15:02

In that case op I agree you sound very much like you are very tolerant and they take the piss. Being single myself I think that was so kind if you to pay nursery fees, I would never act ungrateful towards anyone who did that, and that's before the holidays etc. sounds like she needs to take control of her life herself (doesn't sound like your mum helps that either!). Good luck

southbank · 30/12/2013 15:03

Just read your post about wanting the kids to have nice holidays,I get where you are coming from but,you are not responsible for ensuring this happens as shit as that might sound.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 15:08

I am only half joking about holiday tokens for holiday park holidays.
When we have been short of money we have used them and had nice chalets/ caravans for not that much money. My children love these holidays with the children's disco and club house and they are often based in convenient areas for exploring.
Your sister may need to 'cut her cloth' and not rely on her bountiful [but lovely] sister.

diddl · 30/12/2013 15:10

"She said, "those children won't get a holiday now, because you always arrange it"."

Well-you could offer to arrange-just not pay!

lostdomain · 30/12/2013 15:10

It sounds to me as if they are massively jealous of your relative wealth (generosity) and calm, adult personality in contrast with their childish chaos. You show them up for what they are by being so kind and warm and organised and sane in contrast to them.

Back right off and look after yourself and your DH. Put some of that money you spend on them into savings. You may have DC of your own sometime and you'll want it then. Hope you don't feel too upset by them. You need and deserve a lot of distance from them. You can still love them without letting them use you and drain you.

HissymasJumper · 30/12/2013 15:10

I'll be your sister! Adopt me!

My DS (8) is angelic, i'll tidy up after us, pitch in whenever you need help, and be pitifully grateful to have such a super-sister!

I don't come with any baggage, having freed myself of frankly awful and toxic family myself.

My christmas was just me and my boy, it was peaceful but small.

Your family don't know how lucky they are to have you.

:)

You really have been more than kind, and to have to put up with all this is just heartbreaking! Don't do a single thing more for any of them, I know you adore your DNS, but you're funding their mother's piss poor parenting and she's ruining them at your expense.

No more holidays, or financial help, no more Christmases, no more hospitality.

You could offer to have the DNs only, but without your DM or Dsis, so that you can set your own boundaries and perhaps teach them a few things that'll help them in the future.

I also adored the face like a stopped clock!

catsmother · 30/12/2013 15:12

Her shrieked response was, "well, I'll pay it all back then, if that's what you want! It's all about money for you, isn't it?" (!!!)

Well .... I'd hold the ungrateful cow to what she said. You'd be no worse off - emotionally - would you ? , and a great deal better off financially. You know you spent all that money because you're a nice person who wanted to be generous, if she can't see that, it's her lookout.

Of course YANBU.

SockQueen · 30/12/2013 15:17

Send your muk

SockQueen · 30/12/2013 15:18

Argh, posted too soon! Send your mum a bill for carpet cl

SockQueen · 30/12/2013 15:19

*cleaning.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 15:21

I might just do that...send them the Rug Doctor bill!

Thanks ladies. How nice and insightful you are. Wish you were my sisters!

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HissymasJumper · 30/12/2013 15:22

I've got my own carpet washer...

#dealbreak

Xmas Grin
newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 15:24

I'll start preparing the adoption papers.

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Meerka · 30/12/2013 15:24

One tiny thing, you have been incredibly helpful and generous and longsuffering. Just as a bit of constructive criticism, it might have been better to rephrase the pointing out to sister that you'd given them a lot of help. Something like "I feel used" might have been a possibility. Pointing out that you've given someone a lot of help could be seen as rubbing it in a bit.

I say that meaning it nicely, becuase my god, you've been amazingly generous and helpful.

Just a thought; you're clearly fond of the children. You could put some money away in a bank account for them when they are much older, if you wished. But for gods sake never tell your sister, ever. If you did want to do something like this, keep it quiet and hand over the accoutns when they are 21. It would be between you and the kids, a 21st present for them.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 15:27

Yes, I will do that. I've had fertility problems/miscarriage so we may never have our own children. I think that's one of the reasons why I love my DNs so much. It would be good to be able to help them later in life.

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Lettucesnow · 30/12/2013 15:29

bring dirty blokes back indoors to be ridden and face like a stopped clock Was feeling lousy with this rotten cold but this cheered me up Grin

I had a great Christmas but the in-laws were a nightmare and wound me up something rotten. I daren't post why as they did such unusual things people who know them will recognise their oddities. At one point I took the newspaper into the bathroom and just sat there and read it to get our of their way! I should have laid in the empty bath eh?

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 15:33

Has your Dad reported any fall out from your chat? I hope at least he understands how you feel.
I am sorry you are having difficulties having children and can understand why your DN are so special to you. You are a great Aunt and it is sad that the adults are behaving so badly.

Joules68 · 30/12/2013 15:33

I'm still giggling over 'face like a stopped clock'...but...what does it actually mean??

cozietoesie · 30/12/2013 15:39

Xmas can be a bitch, eh? We have open house at Xmas Day lunch, only put out glass and china that we wouldn't mind being broken - and say Goodbye at about 3 o'clock. Then it's the cat allowed back downstairs (if he wants to), bad movies and sherry trifle.

Xmas works fine for us.

Groovee · 30/12/2013 15:50

I'd buy either the daily mail or the sun for the holiday vouchers and send them to your sister telling her to take her own children on holiday cheaply.

You could take your dad away and leave the stopped clocks to be miserable together. Don't tell him, just turn up for him.

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 15:50

Re the stopped clock: imagine the hands stopped at twenty to four (or twenty past eight). Looks like a miserable gob.

Some men achieve a similar effect with ill-advised 'zapata' moustaches during Movember!

I haven't heard from my dad yet, but he is probably fully occupied coping with the sulking/crying. From my mum and sister, not the kids.

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asmallandnoisymonkey · 30/12/2013 15:53

You sound like an absolute hoot, and what a lovely pair you and your DH are. Don't let them make you feel awful. Unfortunately some people that you're tied to through no fault of your own can be complete arseholes.

YADNBU and I think you sound like a lovely couple. So there.

SapphireMoon · 30/12/2013 15:53

Your poor Dad, surrounded by self righteous drama queens.
Brace yourself for stroppy texts....