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...to take a break from family following horrific Christmas?

247 replies

newyeartempname · 30/12/2013 12:12

I've name changed for this, partly because I'm usually preaching family tolerance at Christmas, but Godalmighty, I'm now eating my words!

I hosted Christmas this year. Parents (late 70s), sister (single mum of 2 and 3 year old), aunt, uncle and cousin, in our house. DH finds some of my family members a little trying. We have no children of our own, but we have the biggest house.

So as not to drip feed: my mum, as much as I love her, is a terrible control freak and sulker. Those tactics haven't worked on me for a long time, but she will persist with them! My dad just goes along with her to keep the peace. My sister is exactly like my mum, only more so; she could sulk for England, and is rather spiteful with it - any tiny slight, real or imagined, leads to the perpetrator being ruthlessly punished.

Because of my sister's situation, my parents help her loads. She's at their house every weekend, and the kids basically wreck it, drawing on the walls etc. My sister has resisted any kind of discipline and routine, which means that the kids take no notice of her. My mum refuses to say "no" to the children because, she says, "your father and I will be dead soon and we want them to have happy memories of us" and "I just need to nurse [DS] through this".

I've always been generous with my sister. I took her, my parents and the kids on holiday twice this year, since money is a little tight for her and they need an extra able bodied person to run after the kids and take them swimming, etc. Both holidays were trying; whenever I asked the children not to do something, or said, e.g., "no, you can't have any more sweets until you've had lunch", my mum would countermand me in front of them and my sister would sulk and say horrible things. The second occasion was just awful, so I resolved not to do it again.

Anyway, fast forward to Christmas. My sister arrives with a face like a stopped clock and sulks until they left on Boxing day, making a great show of packing the car as early as possible that morning to show that she can't wait to leave. Doesn't lift a finger the entire time, didn't say thank you once despite DH and I having made big breakfasts and lovely Christmas lunch and gone out of our way to make everybody welcome etc. On departure, she said, "well, see you" and stalked out.

My mum was even worse. On Christmas morning she got up and complained bitterly to me about the heating in their bedroom (which they could have altered; the radiator isn't hidden), the fact that the bed was too hard and that the room I'd suggested the children sleep in contained a computer and wireless router "so how can you expect them to sleep with all those flashing lights?"

At Christmas dinner she started telling my husband that there was something wrong with his family because they weren't as close as hers. DH was furious but choked it back.

On Boxing day morning, my mum brought in the kids' new bikes (which DH had spent three hours building on Christmas eve, for no thanks) from the garage, dirty wheels and all from being ridden outside, and let the kids ride them around the house. Cream carpets. DH asked the kids nicely to get off and told them that he was putting the bikes outside, and why. My mum ordered him to bring them back in again! Which he did, after saying that he wasn't used to being ordered around in his own house. I told the kids that they could sit on their bikes in the conservatory, but they couldn't ride them; my mum said, "Oh, let them ride their bikes". I said no, it was my house.

Cue horrendous sulks from my mother, who then deliberately called DH by the wrong name when leaving!

I've just had enough of them. They expect me to go and visit them for a few days over the holidays, which I normally would, but when my dad called I told him that I wouldn't be coming and why.

I feel like my dad is suffering as a consequence, but my mum and sister need to learn that their behaviour is unacceptable.

Am I being unreasonable? Sorry this is so long. It just came spilling out!!

BTW - I've tried sensible discussions with both mum and sister in the past. No go - waterworks, hysteria, I'm going to be dead soon so you must do what I want etc etc.

OP posts:
JustSpeakSense · 30/12/2013 12:41

Riding bikes in the house (muddy or not!) a definite NO NO! Not saying thank you properly before leaving also a definite NO NO! Their behaviour this Christmas was very rude and selfish! I would say u should definitely not be taking any of them on holiday in 2014!

Take a bit if a break from them all for a while (is it possible to see your DF on his own - meet for a coffee or similar - if he is not the problem?) give yourself some time (they are your family after all!) but you probably need to lower your expectations (sadly) as they will never be the kind, thoughtful and appreciative family you deserve. (Your DH sounds like a saint by the way!)

sunbathe · 30/12/2013 12:42

Sorry to hear you had a hard time. It's not nice when you put yourself out and get a horrible response.

In future, I'm guessing you won't be preaching family tolerance at Christmas?

PaperPomPom · 30/12/2013 12:43

I would have gone spare at bikes indoors even if they were saints at all other times. YANBU at all.

koTinkaBell · 30/12/2013 12:43

they're taking you both for granted and are very ungracious guests. you'd be well within your rights not to have them round again.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 30/12/2013 12:45

YANBU - actually think you should have told you mum and sis how you feel about their behaviour rather than making your dad the messenger...

Lemongrab · 30/12/2013 12:47

Oh my goodness. Yanbu at all!

You and your Dh are saints to put up with that! You clearly do a lot for them with nothing (except for rudeness, ungratefulness and disrespect) in return. If I were you, I would seriously limit contact with them all.
Book a lovely holiday for just the two of you in the New Year, have a nice break, and resolve to never put up with their antics ever again!

diddl · 30/12/2013 12:47

Why did your husband bring the bikes back in?

No wonder she tries it on!

That was past the point to tell them to go home!

InTheRedCorner · 30/12/2013 12:52

Yanbu. Outside toys do not come inside. I do feel sorry for your dad in all of this though.

PTFO · 30/12/2013 12:57

YANBU!!

what I don't understand is why you keep hosting, spending your time (building bikes) paying for holidays etc its like rewarding bad behaviour. They know they can get away with it so do, again and again.

I know you are trying to be the bigger and better person, but where has that got you. They cant even bring themselves to be thankful. Your mum and sis are two peas in a pod, leave em to it.

Feelingscrewedup · 30/12/2013 13:06

You haven't mentioned how you behaved towards them? You said the children are undisciplined - are they really or is this just your child free take on it? Did you spend all the time spouting rules? I don't understand why they acted like this if you were welcoming?!

chateauferret · 30/12/2013 13:07

I'd be taking a break from the all right - a permanent one.

whois · 30/12/2013 13:22

Your mum and sister sound AWFUL!!

magimedi · 30/12/2013 13:32

YANBU - how rude & ungrateful.

Also loved face like a stopped clock -new one to me but will be using it.

wowfudge · 30/12/2013 13:35

Poor you and your DH. Do your mum and sister behave like that with everyone or just family? I can never understand why some people think they can say anything they like or behave any way they like to a family member. Total lack of respect and rude. Is there some inverted snobbery at play do you think?

Don't invite them again. FWIW I think you've done the right thing letting your dad know.

gotthemoononastick · 30/12/2013 13:38

You are a saint!!Everybody is rewarding your sister's bad behaviour...Classic case of overcompensating for another person's untidy living.
Your poor husband!!!

Lottapianos · 30/12/2013 13:41

'I also think that, with some people, the more you accommodate them, the more they want to take.'

Completely agree.

Also agree with other posters who said that you and DH are saints. I would have wanted to murder them all as well. Start putting youself first OP - think about what you and DH want to do, not what everyone else expects you to do. Takes practice but it's so worth it, honest!

Meerka · 30/12/2013 13:44

Insulting your husband's family? riding the bikes indoors!? not being thankful for being taken on holiday?!

good grief.

Stay faaaaaaaaaaar faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away. except for your dad.

MrsKoala · 30/12/2013 13:50

They sound awful - the only way you were BU is by letting them continue this dreadful behaviour. I would be letting them know in no uncertain terms how unhappy you are and why and then i would give a very wide berth. Your poor DH too.

I hope you have a lovely New Year op, do something nice for just you and DH :)

HECTheHeraldAngelsSing · 30/12/2013 13:51

Sounds like it's about time someone stood up to them! People behave badly when all around them allow it and they are pandered to and there are no consequences for bad behaviour.

Stand your ground! They need to understand that they cannot shit all over people.

Expect to be the bad guy. People dont like to be called on their crap behaviour.

diddl · 30/12/2013 13:53

I have a feeling that if you stop doing stuff for them, they'll not want to see you anyway!

MmeGuillotine · 30/12/2013 13:53

They sound utterly ghastly. The 'face like a stopped clock', however, is GENIUS and I'll be nabbing that one thanks very much! :)

2rebecca · 30/12/2013 13:55

I wouldn't have bikes ridden in the house, that's just stupid, unless a toddler tricycle that has never been ridden outside and has brand new tyres and you don't have wooden floors. We are keen cyclists and sometimes our bikes come inside to dry off and for maintenance but always on plastic and newspaper in that case. They sound really thoughtless and grubby.
I wouldn't have them back again for at least 6 months and definitely not all together like that. Have a quiet xmas together next year or spend it with people you like. let them have xmas together and ride muddy bikes over each others carpets and moan at each other.
I wouldn't let anyone visit me and not help either. There would be compulsory jobs allocated if no-one volunteered.
There were 10 of us at my brothers but we all chipped in with contributing to the cost, bringing food and wine, chopping, cooking, clearing up etc.
I'd leave your mum and sister to their mutual appreciation society and spend time with people whose company you enjoy.

Marylou2 · 30/12/2013 13:57

Poor you OP! Outrageous behaviour from your family.Please take a break from them and see if they even notice. I think 2014 should be a year to prioritize DH and yourself.

perlona · 30/12/2013 13:59

Invite your dad over as much as possible to give him a much needed break from their nonsense. Keep your mother and sister out of your life. Let them torture each other with bad company.

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