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AIBU?

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To be worried about friend leaving her baby alone/?

187 replies

AwfulMaureen · 24/12/2013 00:15

Go easy...my friend is attending a big family Christmas in a restaurant near to her home....the house is 2 short streets away and she is planning on leaving her DS (10 months) in his cot when it's nap time and taking the monitor with her.

I gently said that I didn't think this a good idea for a variety of reasons....which I don't want to point out here as everyone is aware of them I am sure.

I suggested various alternatives...she was dismissive.

AIBU to think this is not the right thing to do? And AIBU to be worried about the baby?

OP posts:
FalalalalalalaFiggy · 24/12/2013 14:04

Shop her immediately to family, police anyone.

Most stupid thing I've ever heard

FalalalalalalaFiggy · 24/12/2013 14:06

Oh I see you have good on you OP!! Hope she gets some help as I suspect she's needing it

CarpeVinum · 24/12/2013 14:09

What you said about the breastfeeding/sense of doom.

Might be worth having her look into this to see if it rings a bell.

Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex (D-MER)

katese11 · 24/12/2013 14:45

SIL sounds lovely, and a good person to have talked to about it. There are so many good alternatives (getting baby to nap in sling or buggy, SIL babysitting) that to leave them alone would be madness. Stubbs - why have a go at the OP about it? She is trying to help!

muddylettuce · 24/12/2013 14:51

Email her the link to the gov website page detailing the law. She's clearly not worried about her baby's safety, perhaps she'll be more concerned about keeping her job should she break the law in this respect.

DailyMailGail · 24/12/2013 14:55

I had to join simply to reply to this thread. Hiya!

Ask her if she wants to spend Christmas day in a police cell.

Sometimes people are so fucking stupid it beggars belief. Angry

Preciousbane · 24/12/2013 14:55

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Salmotrutta · 24/12/2013 14:58

muddylettuce and DailyMail - and others who clearly haven't read all of the thread - the OP is fairly sure her friend is struggling (possibly with PND or something else) so there is no need for the advice now.

Hmm
katese11 · 24/12/2013 14:59

*I had to join simply to reply to this thread. Hiya!

Ask her if she wants to spend Christmas day in a police cell.

Sometimes people are so fucking stupid it beggars belief.*

From the OP
Go easy...

You joined just to hurl abuse? Merry Christmas Hmm

Salmotrutta · 24/12/2013 15:02

Yes - it's like "Let's just shriek insults without reading the thread!

I despair..

Salmotrutta · 24/12/2013 15:03

And the random "Hiya!"

Lilacroses · 24/12/2013 15:03

Well done op. You have absolutely done the right thing, I had a friend who used to suggest doing things like this. It was very hard to object but I did.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 24/12/2013 15:10

OP - thank you. Do let us know how your friend is, if you want too.

Lilacroses · 24/12/2013 15:14

My friend had pnd after almost losing her dc shortly after birth and that had affected their bonding.

BrianTheMole · 24/12/2013 16:54

At least her sil sounds sensible. Thank goodness. Well done op.

BrianTheMole · 24/12/2013 16:57

Well, glad you joined to get that off your chest dailymailgail. Although the op has sorted it now. Or didn't you rtft? Hmm

PollyIndia · 24/12/2013 17:02

Why can't he nap in the pram?! That is crazy.

PollyIndia · 24/12/2013 17:08

Now read the rest if the thread. Glad your friend has you to support her and hope she gets some help.

DoYouLikeMyBaubles · 24/12/2013 17:11

Well done OP, you're a good friend.

WitchWay · 24/12/2013 17:37

She could take him & let him nap in his pushchair / carseat whatever - that's what we used to do when we had a baby

FraidyCat · 24/12/2013 18:13

I think everyone in this thread is nuts.

I think worrying about a fire is ridiculous. I think worrying about any physical harm coming to the baby is ridiculous. Worrying that the baby will be stolen is ridiculous. If baby-stealing was that common, it wouldn't make the news the way Madeleine did.

The baby is more likely to come to harm on any car trip than from being alone in a cot in a locked house for a couple of hours, yet no-one is suggesting it should be illegal to transport babies. In fact the baby is more likely to come to severe harm if taken with her to the pub, as that involves journeying and a less controlled environment (more other people/moving parts.)

I guess I would worry that the child would need a nappy change and not get one, so from that point of view it is neglectful. I would guess that's why the law would be interested - unnecessary suffering. (That's assuming the baby monitor doesn't work at that distance - I have no experience with them.)

At least I hope that's why the law would interested - it would be extremely frightening if social workers/police/judges were as nutty about risk assessment as everyone here.

foreverondiet · 24/12/2013 18:22

Totally irresponsible with a 10 month old. Even with a sophisticated baby listener that would work 2 streets away.

I do pop out and leave my 10 YEAR OLD but she can use a phone, and also would never leave her to go out for dinner, only for something quick like getting her brother from school.

loveolives · 24/12/2013 19:09

What an awful mother.

ThreeWisePerpendicularVinces · 24/12/2013 19:14

I don't think anyone on the thread who has advised against leaving the baby is 'nuts'. He's a baby and should not be left alone.

OP, you did exactly the right thing and have been a good friend. I really hope that your friend gets the support she needs, if she is depressed.

At least with you and SIL around she has people she can rely upon.

Chippednailvarnish · 24/12/2013 19:18

You are so right Fraidy why people bother paying for babysitters is beyond me, we should all just leave them home alone asleep Hmm