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To ask why you'd have more than one child?

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Writerwannabe83 · 19/12/2013 20:19

I'm just curious as to the reason you decided to have your 2nd child (in scenarios where the 2nd baby was planned).

I spent some time with my sister yesterday and her 2 children and bloody hell, listening to them argue and bicker constantly was just mind numbing - I could have screamed. She's there shouting at them, they're getting upset, she's telling me what a nightmare it is when they don't get on etc etc. I'm sure my sister isn't the only parent to be in this situation. I was at breaking point just listening to them, at least I had the freedom to get in my car and drive home Grin

From my experiences of talking to parents with more than one child they always seem to have more worries - be it the cost of bringing up two children compared to one, sibling rivalry, sharing their time between them fairly, family favourites, siblings that hurt/hate each other etc. I feel exhausted just listening to some parents when they tell me the stresses of having more than one child.

All that goes through my head is, "So why have another?"

Is it that you wanted a sibling for your current child?
Or that you missed having a baby around the house?
Or that you just love having mini versions of you and your DH/DP Smile

And is having two (or more) as stressful as I'm led to believe??? Smile

OP posts:
conorsrockers · 19/12/2013 21:19

We had another one because our first was turning into a little old man. He needed a sibling. We had the second, and then the third .... I would have carried on if my purse was deep enough.
Our 3DS don't fight - they adore each other. The more you have the easier it gets Grin

womma · 19/12/2013 21:19

Of course they do OP!

BertieBowtiesAreCool · 19/12/2013 21:19

I think it's just a personality thing. For me I have always wanted more than one and I actually think that it's as much of a choice as choosing between having no children and having any, because the end result is so different. (And of course, as with the first decision, you don't always get the choice that you wanted.)

I just have the one currently because I broke up with his father when he was one year old and then it's taken me four years to get to the point with somebody else where I want to marry them, let alone have more babies Grin I feel quite sad that DS will never have that sibling close in age that I had wanted for him and I think we will end up having at least 2 more because I want to do the "multiple children" thing, and I don't think it will be quite the same with a big age gap.

From my experience with one and my observations of friends/talking to people both in RL and on here and my experience growing up with a sibling this is what I see as the differences:

With one child -
Relationship is more intense. Child tends to need your input a lot because you are their main playmate, especially if you don't have an extended family of cousins etc nearby. However, this also means that you have more time and resources to devote to them - for example, if your child loves trains you can spend a whole day at a specialist (read: very dull) transport museum without having to find childcare for the others, consider age-appropriate needs of others or have to drag around a trail of bored children. It also means that their interests often tend to be a little bit more adult, because you are so invested in them and spend so much time with them, you end up sharing your interests more with them which means there's a good chance they'll pick up on one or two of them.

You also have far more money and resources and it's easier to arrange things, so you have a lot more freedom. If you want to hop on a plane/bus/train for a weekend, you only have to find one extra fare, not two or three. Eating out, days out etc are cheaper because you're only paying for one extra person who usually costs less than an adult. Two children can cost more than one adult and three can cost more than two. It's not as difficult or stressful, nor does it require as much pre-planning, to keep track of one child in a crowded or unfamiliar place, so you're more likely to find the idea of a trip out less daunting (hence, again: more freedom)

But, the intensity can be a downside, especially if your child is extroverted. I struggle with DS' constant need for company and affirmation and I am an extrovert myself! It's hard when they are in the age of having very child-related interests like obsession over a TV show or something you find deathly dull, like, say, dinosaurs or playing sword-fighting games. I'd say this lasts from around age 2 or 3 to about age 7, so it's a long time.

With multiple children (again, not from direct personal experience, see above):

You have that variety in ages and stages. When your 5 year old is obsessing over the rainbow fairy books and you want to gouge your eyes out at the thought of reading one again, you have a baby or toddler to cheer you up again by doing something adorable or an 8 year old who wants help with their homework and you can help them to figure it out by themselves and watch them grow in confidence. When the baby is being grizzly, it's nice that the older ones are more independent and able to do stuff for themselves. etc. I would say that children who have siblings tend to be better at doing stuff for themselves in general too, because their parents don't have infinite time to help them and do things for them (no matter how hands off you are with an only, you can't get away from this really, and they pick up on it).

You feel like you know what you're doing a little bit Grin (some days, I am totally convinced that this is the main reason people have more than one!) - but, I think there is an element of you've been there and you know how to deal with that stage and it doesn't feel as daunting as the first time when you had no idea.

They entertain each other. They can relate more easily to each other - especially in the small-child phase - much more easily than adults relate to a child. They are a friend to each other. They can look out for each other (to an extent) when you're out and about. You can get the older one to read the boring books to the little one Grin OK, seriously, I know siblings fight and that is of course the flip side, but I was so close to my sister as a child and we spent hours and hours playing together. I love watching DS play with other children and I feel guilty that I can't play with him in the same way, or for as long, or as repetitively. I also love watching children together - I love listening to their conversations, seeing what things they come up with in their games, just seeing that bond and that relationship develop, I think it's magical. I think it's natural that they fight, so you do have to have some conflict management skills which aren't really as important when you only have one child.

I think that siblings are probably less dependent on their parents after they grow up and leave home, which again could be a positive or negative thing! It's a positive for me, because I have never wanted or expected to be the focus of my childrens' lives. Part of the appeal for me about having a family is seeing what interesting, independent, different people they turn out to be.

Mammoth post, but I think it's a whole different ballgame, no way is it the case that one is better than the other, it's just what suits you personally.

BabyDubsEverywhere · 19/12/2013 21:19

Because I am mentally ill and making irrational decisions seems to be my thing Confused

Bogeyface · 19/12/2013 21:20

And surely an 'only child' still learns how to interact with other children at nursery and school? Why do they need to have a sibling to learn these life skills?

Because at nursery the other children are not allowed to sit on your childs head threatening to shove a Barbie doll in their ears, whereupon your child smacks them one and they are both in tears! Lesson learned? Hitting hurts!

QueenofLouisiana · 19/12/2013 21:21

I only have one child- for many reasons. He has close friends, they can come and stay over, we can do things he is interested in, travel, whatever really.

I cannot imagine having another, but wish those who do the best of luck!

BertieBowtiesAreCool · 19/12/2013 21:22

Oh yes, and my personal opinion (more of a jokey one) - they get TERRIFYING at three. Most people are pregnant with #2 before this point. And if they go for number 3, then number 1 is about 5 by then and starting to get better and they forget just how bad it is Grin

BarbarianMum · 19/12/2013 21:22

It's not the same interaction though, nowhere near as intense or possessive or personal. Which is not to say it's necessary to have siblings, only that it does give you the experience of a totally different type of emotional relationship and bond.

Backtobedlam · 19/12/2013 21:23

I always wanted 2 children, then had a difficult pregnancy/birth with dc1 and said I NEVER EVER wanted another. Then about 1 year on something changed, no idea why, and I desperately wanted a second. Dc2 arrived and I was adamant my family was complete, until a year on and I started yearning for number 3...

womma · 19/12/2013 21:25

You don't need a sibling to learn how to get on with people at all.

Kasterborous · 19/12/2013 21:25

We've got one and have just started trying for another. Might well not happen as I'm now 41, possibly going through an early menopause and had six miscarriages before DD. I would prefer her not to be an only child. I grew up with three sisters and a brother and can't imagine being an only one. Another reason is because we are older parents - I was nearly 40 and DH was 41 - when DD was born. If we died a bit younger she would be on her own. If she has a sibling it's someone to share the load with.

Bogeyface · 19/12/2013 21:27

Of the only children I know (as adults) I would say that they are the worst at compromising. They dont seem to get that other peoples wants and opinions are just as valid as theirs, which I have always assumed has come from the fact that they didnt have to do that as children.

elliejjtiny · 19/12/2013 21:28

I just thought DS1 was so great that I wanted another one Smile

BertieBowtiesAreCool · 19/12/2013 21:31

It's really fine to only want one. Think about it, the majority of people are siblings just because siblings are a larger group than one! So most people (IME) are pro-siblings and have the opposite view, wondering why anybody would just have one.

But it really is fine to have one. Your child will not be "odd", it's perfectly possible to teach them not to be selfish and to share and it's really not a life skill to know how to give someone a chinese burn while they're sitting on you! If they relate better to adults, which is possible, does it matter? They'll be an adult for most of their life. I don't think they are necessarily lonely, but you do have to make more of an effort to give more of yourself to them to prevent that loneliness.

Basically, it's a perfectly valid choice, there is no downside to being an only that can't be balanced by you or by the different opportunities and experiences they are able to have.

womma · 19/12/2013 21:31

bogey I know quite a few people from bigger families like that too!

BertieBowtiesAreCool · 19/12/2013 21:33

Right but Bogey, I'd say that happens because parents, often, take the moral high road and say, OK, I'll compromise with you so you don't have to compromise with me, because I'm bigger and I don't mind.

I think if you actively avoid that and try to get them to think about how it could be best to solve a problem for everybody from an early age then I don't see it being a problem. But I can see how easily it could happen, if you were not aware.

frogspoon · 19/12/2013 21:33

I think there are as many reasons to have more than one child, as to have only one. I think a lot of it is influenced by one's own childhood.

My mum is an only child of older parents (they are both now sadly no longer with us) Although she was generally happy and successful she felt lonely and longed for a sibling when younger. When she was older and my grandparents became ill and eventually passed away, she resented not having anyone to share that with except my dad. As a result she went on to have three children. She cannot understand why we don't get along, and thinks we should all be close the whole time, most likely as she perceived her friends siblings to be.

My father was the oldest of two, and generally got on well with his brother, so had no issues with having more than one child.

I am one of three, and whilst I get on quite well with one of my sisters, I really don't get on with the other one. As a result, I am very unlikely to have three children, and may well only have one. I have seen first hand how the negative relationship between my sister and I has affected both of us and our family. I wouldn't wish that on my future family, just as my mum would not wish her childhood loneliness on us.

If I have one happy and healthy child, why would I need a second and risk an unhappy sibling relationship? Any children I have are likely to have cousins, and if I only have one chid will do my best for their sake to give them as positive a relationship with their cousins, so hopefully they will not be lonely. Plus I am an introvert, so hopefully they will inherit that from me and be happy in their own company and not be lonely.

IMO a happy successful sibling relationship is probably one of the best things you could ever experience, as they are always there for you, and you have a whole life's history. But an unhappy sibling relationship is one of the worst things you can experience, as no matter how unhappy it makes you, you can never let go.

Amrapaali · 19/12/2013 21:34

Some of the ressponses on this thread depress me. Parents of an only child are not parents, but a couple with a child?? What the fuck is that?

In essence, most of your reasons seems to be selfish. Care in your old age, a playmate for the eldest one, a heir and a spare... Very few have actually said, "I just wanted another baby"

lifeinthefastlane1 · 19/12/2013 21:35

Bertie totally agree with that not wanting to be the focus of your childrens lives, my friend who has a grown up only child, depends far too much on the daughter and it is clear that the daughter totally plays on this even though she is in her 20s, (she will agree to go places with mum if mum pays for everything , if mum wont then daughter will find something else to do) she agrees they wouldnt have this type of relationship if she had had another child. I like being able to just step in and out of my olders ones lives as needed and watching them living their lives to the full,and although I cling to my last baby memories with dd2 I look forward to seeing her fly the nest when the time comes.

PetiteRaleuse · 19/12/2013 21:36

Honestly one would have been fine. I have two, they're great. But one would have been great too.

SatinSandals · 19/12/2013 21:38

If you are the only it is very hard on you in later life when your parents are elderly. I wouldn't have liked being an only, with siblings there was also someone to play with. It is also hard being an only because they have to come up to parent level, with more than one the parents are forced down to child level. You learn to share, compromise, argue etc. Later on you have someone to share memories with, someone to complain about parents to etc.
Apart from that my son hated being an only, he used to be in tears about it.

Kasterborous · 19/12/2013 21:39

Amrapaali When I said share the load, I didn't mean looking after us. I would tell DD to put me in a nursing home. I meant if we died young, and she didn't have a family of her own, she would have someone who shares that bond. And we would love to have two children. I just have a horrible feeling it's not going to happen Sad

Bogeyface · 19/12/2013 21:39

I just wanted another baby, and then another, and another! When I hit 6 I knew I was done. It was weird really. I had spent almost all of my time from the age of about 25 being either broody or pregnant. The idea that you could say "I dont want any more children" was just as strange to me as the idea you could want more than one is to the OP. Hankering after and planning for my next baby was normal for me.

Then I had DC6 and suddenly....nothing. It all went away. I have had the odd moment but that has been to do with her growing up and finally saying goodbye to the baby stage, nothing to do with actively wanting another baby.

BarbarianMum · 19/12/2013 21:41

Having children is pretty much always selfish though, isn't it? The alternatives being not wanting any but bearing them as an act of altruism, or having them by mistake?

Pooka · 19/12/2013 21:41

I love the easy relationship my chdren have with each other. Of course they argue sometimes. But in the most part they get on.

Have a 10yr old girl and 2 boys, aged 8 and4. The 4 yr old is very tactile. When he and ds1 are both looking at the same thing ds2 rests his head on ds1 and rubs ds1's earlobe absent mindedly. They all cuddle up on the sofa.

When they argue, they're always learning about compromise. There's give and take. They learn from each other.

Of course it isn't a bed of roses all the time. But... This week ds2 has been off preschool because they broke up early and I've actually found it very tiring and quite hard work - way more than I do during normal holidays when they're all off.

However these are my feelings and experiences. There are IMO some advantages to having one child by accident or design. I dont feel that I give them enough individual attention. There's always one that seems to be left out. I feel like I lurch from one crisis to another I.e. I'm always worrying about one child or another. Solve an issue with one and the next one has a drama at school or whatever.

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