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to be concerned re. what is going on re. immigration and population growth?

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ClarityJane · 06/11/2013 20:52

So many non-English voices, especially East Europeans, but so many different nationalities en masse it seems have moved here in the last 10-20 years - completely unprecedented historically. And in an already very over-crowded island.

Today I read Labour MP Frank Field say that the population increase due to immigration by 2031, i.e. less than 20 years, will be approximately 10 million and will require building something like seven new Birminghams! Or another London! Based on latest predictions in the papers today anyway.

Did Blair and Mandelson envisage this when they signed up for European Community rules on immigration and refugees? Or did they cynically not care because it meant cheap labour, cheap votes, increased profits (via membership of the European Community).

Did the architects of this policy not consider how it would affect housing, jobs and education and the resulting massive investment needed there, and the over-crowded population we have already.

I believe we have never been consulted or told anything honestly about what the consequences of EC membership was immigration-wise, if indeed there was ever any plan (doesn't seem to be, just a kind of opportunistic carpetbaggers philosophy approach of selling England by the pound).

I feel deceived and hoodwinked really. But are there any more positive thoughts on this? I find it v. depressing.

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JaquelineHyde · 07/11/2013 19:43

Well MN HQ you have really taken the fucking biscuit on this one.

PA's will not be allowed but blatant racism is clearly ok. Nice to know where MN draw the line.

I cannot believe that I have been deleted yet a thread full of nasty swiping racist remarks has remained.

Fucking bollocks to the lot of you!

trish5000 · 07/11/2013 19:45

Sorry about that. I didnt word my post very well. Blush
It would have been best if the last paragraph had been on a seperate post.

LurcioLovesFrankie · 07/11/2013 19:51

I think the site should re-think its policy on PAs.

"She brought rape on herself by wearing a short skirt" should be met with "Fuck off you misogynist prick." "Eastern Europeans caused the housing shortage/unemployment" should be met with "Fuck off you racist bastard." "Gays are undermining marriage" should be met with "Fuck off you homophobic arse." Some people deserved to be attacked for their obnoxious, indefensible views.

feelingood · 07/11/2013 19:51

I think maybe MNHQ have left the OP's orginal post to give context to the thread.

I dont know about illiterate people on this thread but some people need to read a bit more about such issues that are as complex as this.

Like I said earlier those shouting the loudest to be heard, be nasty and accusaotry need to look up attribution theory.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 07/11/2013 19:54

But feelin there are no complex issues here. It's a goady OP, followed by blatant racism.

Why should I look up anything? I'm educated enough to know racism when I see it, thanks.

feelingood · 07/11/2013 19:55

Southern Ireland do you mean the Republic of Ireland - a sperate state altogether

dozeydoris · 07/11/2013 19:59

I would say you are all getting your knickers in a twist over your own ishoos and bending other people's posts to give you an opportunity to rant about whatever random thing you want to rant about.

It must be the case that every job an immigrant does is one less that an unemployed Brit can find.

Welcome to MN Doris
don't worry Chippednv I have been around a while and with the quality of replies on this thread I have nothing to worry about .......
Doris, that is bollocks

feelingood · 07/11/2013 20:00

sure heartbroken ive enjoyed your collectivistic social and economic views - of course you are very right absolutely

trish5000 · 07/11/2013 20:01

Yes feelin. A quick google reveals I am many years out of date.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 07/11/2013 20:02

It must be the case that every job an immigrant does is one less that an unemployed Brit can find.

You may find that the shitty, underpaid jobs that immigrants quite happily do are the jobs that unemployed Brits are turning their noses up at.

Are you that woman that Gordon Brown met?

feelingood · 07/11/2013 20:02

yep there's a lot of knicker twisting going on Doris quite a few wedgies id say.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 07/11/2013 20:03

Feelin I'm so glad you agree.

Unless you were being sarcastic. I do hope not. Shall we report each other now or later Grin

JanineStHubbins · 07/11/2013 20:03

trish have you ever been to 'southern Ireland'? How do you know that 'parts of it feel very empty'?

feelingood · 07/11/2013 20:04

Well well well, now that is a view I agree with heartbroken somewhere along the line some people in this country lost their work ethic.

dozeydoris · 07/11/2013 20:04

Are you that woman that Gordon Brown met

Haven't you heard the explanation of that misunderstanding?

Chippednailvarnish · 07/11/2013 20:05

Take that as a yes then Doris.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 07/11/2013 20:05

Feelin - you agree with me?

AthelstaneTheUnreadyFucker · 07/11/2013 20:05

I've been deleted Shock

I've never been deleted under any name before Shock

Doesn't change the fact that the OP Has Very Racist Views Whilst Managing Apparently Not To Be Racist Confused

dozeydoris · 07/11/2013 20:06

some people in this country lost their work ethic

Oooo, I hope you don't mean the working classes, M DV will be after you.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 07/11/2013 20:06

Misunderstanding????

No, I saw the footage and agreed she was a bigot. I think it was the bigoted things she said that made me think so.

But then, apparently I know nothing about racism, me.

LEMisafucker · 07/11/2013 20:08

christ dozey, you aint gonna fit in round here luv maybe change your name back for more clarity

trish5000 · 07/11/2013 20:08

Janine, that is a bit of a silly question if you dont mind me saying. Not going to out myself about what I know and how I know. And yes, been there and more besides.

dozeydoris · 07/11/2013 20:09

I can't remember all she said but it was at the time there were camps at Calais and stowaways on lorries, she said 'where are they all flocking from?' and poor old Gordon misheard.

JanineStHubbins · 07/11/2013 20:10

Right. So you've been to 'southern Ireland', but didn't manage to get the name of the country right, apparently didn't notice that it was an independent sovereign state (clue: different currency! different flag! different colour postboxes) and had to rely on Google to tell you so. I wouldn't place too much store on 'what you know'. Hmm

feelingood · 07/11/2013 20:13

I catergorically did not refer to a group of people, I said some people. I will go further to say that in some cases it is because they are victims of their circumstances, things beyond their control. At some point they lose motivation. Some people are happy to casot along. This can apply to anyone.

I DID NOT bring class into. But if you want to stir go ahead. I can vouch for myself and I don't think Mrs is that gulliable actually.

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