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To be disappointed, hurt and a bit embarrassed with my DD(19)

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WhatHappenedToMyGirl · 23/10/2013 14:25

I am fully prepared to be told IABVU for this, but here goes.

DD is 19, she has always been bright & ambitious, always in the top set and achieved great GCSE's - almost all straight A*/As , sporty and a bubbly, life of the party type of girl but since the middle of her lower sixth form year she seems to have dropped out from life entirely.
For the past 2.5 years she has been very withdrawn, depressed, very anxious about leaving the house, panicking if DH and I would be leaving her alone for the night, has lost touch with all her friends, put on 2 stone and is now somewhat of a recluse.
DH and I were bewildered at first, did something happen to her? did someone hurt her? did she see something traumatizing? etc. We asked (more like pleaded and begged) her to tell us what was wrong and how we could help her and she would just sit there and cry silently and not answer us. It was honestly the most heart-wrenching thing I've ever seen, we felt so powerless.
She refused to go to school and would have panic attacks if we tried to force her into going, seeing as she was 17 at the time, eventually we dropped the issue altogether, thinking that she would snap out her funk in her own time but we still tried in vain to get her to attend cbt sessions. She spent most of her time crying, sleeping, reading or just sitting.

She confided in me in June that she had been raped walking home from the library, around the same time as she had become depressed. I think she confirmed something that was in the back of my mind all along. I told DH as I couldn't keep something like this from him, and he broke down in tears. We asked if she wanted to report it and find her rapist and press charges against him, but she completely refused. We tried to support her as much as we could.
Since DD told us what happened, it is like a weight has been lifted off her, she has begun to slowly heal. she has begun attending rape counselling and a support group, losing weight and exercising, reaching out to some of her old friends and beginning to join us on our family walks.

This is all excellent and I am relieved beyond words and I have cried with happiness that she is getting better. My AIBU is about this next situation, Last week DD told DH and I that she had been looking for a job, we asked what kind of job as she only has GCSE's and no work experience. She told us she applied for Tesco's, Asda, Aldi etc. and Boots, Superdrug, some other clothing retailers, a cleaning job, admin assistant job etc.

If I am honest with you, and I will be as this is anonymous I am feeling embarrassed with DD for not choosing to go back to college now she is better, and do an access course or her A levels and go to university like her peers. She is choosing low paid small jobs when she used to have so many plans for her life. So many dreams for her future.
Her two cousins have just finished their first years of medical school and an economics degree. Her friends are either doing charity work abroad or are in university, working towards a secure future.
I feel a tiny bit ashamed when people ask me about her now, before when she was depressed, she was ill and I would tell people who asked after her that she was ill and that I didn't want to talk about it. Now...what can I say? My beautiful brilliant DD is a shelf stacker at Asda?? I know I am wrong to say this, but I wanted DD to be more than a cashier or receptionist, I wanted her to be one of life's achievers.

How can I steer back into academia? (or should I even do that?)
Please help me MN,

A worried mother

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witsalmader · 23/10/2013 18:37

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AndHarry · 23/10/2013 18:40

Reported the posters who knew they would be Hmm

OP it sounds as though your family has gone through hell. Please get counselling for you and your DH as well as your DD. In the meantime, good on her for making positive steps. These good choices now will pave the way for more good choices in the future, whether she chooses to stay in retail or to go back into formal learning.

I think it's really important you get counselling too. I was another straight-A student who didn't go on to university as my parents had imagined and even though they have never said anything, their disappointment, embarrassment and bitter comparisons with my peers hurt me every day.

extracrunchy · 23/10/2013 18:42

OP I'm sorry you're getting such aggressive and unhelpful responses (but can understand where they're coming from).

Your DD just needs you to support and accept her for now. She's been through something unbelievably traumatic and she's been very strong to tell you and start taking positive steps. Having been similar at the same age and experienced a less than helpful reaction from my mother I can tell you firsthand it's critical for your relationship, her self esteem and her future that you are very sensitive. She has years to catch up with academia - for now her emotional wellbeing should be your absolute priority.

SinisterBuggyMonth · 23/10/2013 18:46

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MillyONaire · 23/10/2013 18:46

You poor things. That bastard stole so much from your dd and your family. I read somewhere (on MN) that we shouldn't expect things to be a certain way but it is impossible imo to do that - so you expected your very blessed dd to have a particular path in life but something utterly unexpected has come along and knocked her completely off track. The thing to hang onto is she will get back on that track - you just need to bear with her and support her. If she was bright and high achieving at school then she will resume her high achieving in whichever path she follows. Courage!

Heartbrokenmum73 · 23/10/2013 18:53

Have reported a couple of posters upthread (whose names are very unfamiliar Hmm) and just want to reiterate that people READ THE FULL THREAD BEFORE COMMENTING ffs.

ButThereAgain · 23/10/2013 18:55

WhatHappenedtomyGirl, I hope you know that the only reason you are getting some hostile, stupid responses (alongside the very many helpful ones) is that you are more honest than many parents, and many people. Not because you are more "snobby" or less supportive of your daughter. You are a good and loving parent doing the very best you can. Flowers

One of the small consolations of terrible trauma is that it can make people better at self-examination, at confronting every part of themselves and not gliding through life in a state of facile self-delusion and self-approval. You are truthful with yourself and you confront what you know to be difficult feelings. Unfortunately some people seize on this inappropriately.

Nonameisagoodname · 23/10/2013 19:02

I've name changed for this, it struck a chord.

I was raped at 17. Completely squashed it down, bottled it up, ignored it. Got my A Levels. Went to University. Got a professional job.

Had a complete PTSD breakdown at 28. Self-harmed at work just to get through the day. Tried to commit suicide several times. Self-sabotage by stopping ADs cold turkey to punish myself. 5 years on, still suicidal, hope to complete some day soon.

Please do not push your daughter down a path she isn't ready for. Accepting that this happened to her is the the first step for her healing, don't try to force her further, faster than she is ready for. I pushed myself and I know now I will never recover. I will die feeling like this and it will be a relief.

Put bluntly, this isn't about you or your feelings. You need to step up and be everything your daughter needs you to be. I didn't have anybody or anything and you don't want her to be like me. That would be something to be ashamed or embarrassed about.

BasketzatDawn · 23/10/2013 19:07

After such a traumatic experience, isn't it great your daughter has taken another step out into the outside world. One step at a time. Her life will have been changed orm now on by what has happened. Maybe this is the biggest step she can take right now, and none of it needs to be forever - she is only 19 and can pick up her studies later if SHE wants. Be proud you have helped her, supported her in getting this far. You are all doing well in difficult circumstances.

Mouthfulofquiz · 23/10/2013 19:09

I'm so sorry this happened to your daughter. Just give her some time - this all seems so recent still. I think an unstressful job, while working on 'getting back out there' - socialising with new work colleagues etc will be invaluable to someone in her situation. I think you should feel proud of her, and she needs to do whatever makes her happy. You sound like a lovely mum for caring so much - everyone just wants the best for their children which is understandable. Big hugs to all x

mrspremise · 23/10/2013 19:16

Angry There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with 'stacking shelves'. I get so irritated with people (my parents) who treat it as the worst job they can imagine... bet they would kick off if they went in the shop and the damn shelves were empty!

KateCroydon · 23/10/2013 19:17

This made me think of all those times that people in standard 'professional' jobs cause harm because they can't grasp that others have more difficult lives. What happened to your daughter is beyond words but if there's any way of drawing hope from tragedy it might be that in thirty years time she'll be a more insightful doctor or judge or police officer or teacher or nanny or [...] than if she had sailed through life as she should have. Medical schools often like mature applicants because they've learnt stuff there aren't exams for.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that she sounds like a great kid with a great family behind her and that evil bastard won't wreck her life.

Louise1956 · 23/10/2013 19:20

not everyone is suited to college, and she may do well in retail. there are opportunities for advancement, she might get to be a manager or a buyer or something like that.

usuallyright · 23/10/2013 19:22

op, nonameisagoodname, this thread just shows how evil, life destroying and horrendous the effects of rape are. I'm so sorry you're going through this. Noname, I really hope you stop feeling suicidal eventually, that you can build a life and have happiness, despite the horror of what happened to you. Because you deserve that. Know that.
OP, please take all the pressure off your daughter.
Your job as a parent is to give pure, unconditional love.
Who cares if she's a high achiever, a doctor like your friends kids? It does not matter. The purpose of life is to find inner zen, happiness and pay it forward. Having a high status career is not the purpose of life. Love her. That's all.

wordfactory · 23/10/2013 19:24

OP you are grieving for the future your daughter wanted and planned. Focussing on any shame you might feel uis just the imappropriate way that these things come out.

You've admitted as much, which is very brave of you.
If it were me, I'd support her in her current plans. Education is very full. It requires a total engagement that she may nt be able to give. Plus she might be placed in a situation of having to explain this lost time.

Shelf stacking might seem to her like a nice, therapeutic mindless activity which keeps her body active (important during time sof stress and trauma).

In time she may want to return to her old plans, at which time you'll be ready again to support.

My best wishes to you. This is a hard raod, and not one anyone would choose. Don't be ashamed of your feelings or run away from them. MN is a perfect place to vent!

Loosingthebigkickers · 23/10/2013 19:25

Your poor, Poor dd. im glad she was able to tell you eventually and take steps to feel better. .

Don't put her down. .its a huge huge step to get a job after such an incident. She is young and has so much time when she is better to do those things if she wants to.

hackmum · 23/10/2013 19:26

YANBU. You just want the best for your daughter. Three years ago she was a bright girl with excellent GCSEs, heading for A-levels, university and a career. It's not snobbery to be disappointed that she'll be stacking shelves.

It's an incredibly sad story and it looks like you've been giving your DD the support she needs. In time she may feel ready to go back to college, but I agree that you shouldn't push her. Just give her lots of gentle support and encouragement - which it sounds as if you're doing already.

Venushasrisen · 23/10/2013 19:27

I am an old bat now but can remember tut-tutting at other people's DCs who weren't as 'successful' as mine, and you know what, they've all made good, just taken longer to get round to it. I'm sure DD will find her vocation in the end.
And some of the 'successful' ones are in jobs they hate, wish they'd studied something else or ignored their impressive degrees to go and do what they actually want.
She has years ahead of her to sort out a happy life.

Loosingthebigkickers · 23/10/2013 19:28

noname

My heart just broke for you.

This has struck a cord with me too. I think its possible I'm having ptsd breakdown now too, Almost ten years on.

thebody · 23/10/2013 19:29

I think your post is incredibly honest and I understand op, my dds life won't go as planned either after a trauma.

best of luck to you all xxx

CailinDana · 23/10/2013 19:32

No name and loosing you will find fantastic support here on MN. Please consider starting threads. Feminism chat is the best section to find understanding.

PoshPenny · 23/10/2013 19:33

Just because she's doing relatively menial work now doesn't mean she'll be doing it for the rest of her life. her confidence must have been absolutely shattered by the rape, and my view is that this "little" job is her first step back on the ladder back to normality. all the signs point to her confidence slowly but surely being restored. Once she's more back on track, my guess would be that she will want to return to her studies. In the meantime to those that ask what she's up to, just give some non committal response, it isn't really any of their business. What Really Matters is that she is doing her utmost to get herself back on track, and needs her parents quietly in the background cheering her on.

DontspeakIknowwhatursayin · 23/10/2013 19:35

YANBU to be sad and grieve for what's lost

This is a stepping stone to get herself back. Encourage her and be kind. Put aside our feelings of shame as they are not important here.

I know a bit about what you are going through as I have a really seriously ill daughter . She went off on holiday well and came home critically ill, with everything changed from then. It's hard as you know and for my dd, the fight in her has led her on to push herself to succeed. Five years later she is back on track.

She will get there, be patient and kind.

Good luck to you and your dd x

DontspeakIknowwhatursayin · 23/10/2013 19:36

Your feelings of shame

peachypips · 23/10/2013 19:38

Hi OP,
Haven't read the full thread as no time, but just wanted to say that your daughter seems to have been mainly suffering with a kind of post-traumatic anxiety disorder as a result of the rape.
Because of this, it is of utmost importance that no pressure or expectation is put on her. She needs to do what she feels ready for when she chooses. The likelihood is that as she used to be aspirational she will regain this at a later stage when she has more fully recovered.
I have first hand experience of this- no pressure or expectation from anyone will lead to her recovering more quickly. Let her work where she likes for however long she likes.
So sorry this has happened to you- I can't imagine the pain of seeing your child go through this. My heart goes out to you x