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To be disappointed, hurt and a bit embarrassed with my DD(19)

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WhatHappenedToMyGirl · 23/10/2013 14:25

I am fully prepared to be told IABVU for this, but here goes.

DD is 19, she has always been bright & ambitious, always in the top set and achieved great GCSE's - almost all straight A*/As , sporty and a bubbly, life of the party type of girl but since the middle of her lower sixth form year she seems to have dropped out from life entirely.
For the past 2.5 years she has been very withdrawn, depressed, very anxious about leaving the house, panicking if DH and I would be leaving her alone for the night, has lost touch with all her friends, put on 2 stone and is now somewhat of a recluse.
DH and I were bewildered at first, did something happen to her? did someone hurt her? did she see something traumatizing? etc. We asked (more like pleaded and begged) her to tell us what was wrong and how we could help her and she would just sit there and cry silently and not answer us. It was honestly the most heart-wrenching thing I've ever seen, we felt so powerless.
She refused to go to school and would have panic attacks if we tried to force her into going, seeing as she was 17 at the time, eventually we dropped the issue altogether, thinking that she would snap out her funk in her own time but we still tried in vain to get her to attend cbt sessions. She spent most of her time crying, sleeping, reading or just sitting.

She confided in me in June that she had been raped walking home from the library, around the same time as she had become depressed. I think she confirmed something that was in the back of my mind all along. I told DH as I couldn't keep something like this from him, and he broke down in tears. We asked if she wanted to report it and find her rapist and press charges against him, but she completely refused. We tried to support her as much as we could.
Since DD told us what happened, it is like a weight has been lifted off her, she has begun to slowly heal. she has begun attending rape counselling and a support group, losing weight and exercising, reaching out to some of her old friends and beginning to join us on our family walks.

This is all excellent and I am relieved beyond words and I have cried with happiness that she is getting better. My AIBU is about this next situation, Last week DD told DH and I that she had been looking for a job, we asked what kind of job as she only has GCSE's and no work experience. She told us she applied for Tesco's, Asda, Aldi etc. and Boots, Superdrug, some other clothing retailers, a cleaning job, admin assistant job etc.

If I am honest with you, and I will be as this is anonymous I am feeling embarrassed with DD for not choosing to go back to college now she is better, and do an access course or her A levels and go to university like her peers. She is choosing low paid small jobs when she used to have so many plans for her life. So many dreams for her future.
Her two cousins have just finished their first years of medical school and an economics degree. Her friends are either doing charity work abroad or are in university, working towards a secure future.
I feel a tiny bit ashamed when people ask me about her now, before when she was depressed, she was ill and I would tell people who asked after her that she was ill and that I didn't want to talk about it. Now...what can I say? My beautiful brilliant DD is a shelf stacker at Asda?? I know I am wrong to say this, but I wanted DD to be more than a cashier or receptionist, I wanted her to be one of life's achievers.

How can I steer back into academia? (or should I even do that?)
Please help me MN,

A worried mother

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friendlymum67 · 23/10/2013 14:38

I have no experience at all of what you are going thro, apart from being a mum, but as Sharp says above I think you need to give her time.

There is a saying 'great oaks from little acorns grow'. Your DD is still young. Be proud of her for coming out the other side of a hideous traumatic experience and support her - who knows what the future holds!

ElBombero · 23/10/2013 14:39

Aww gosh how sad for your DD.

I agree you should be extremely proud that she is able to get out of bed every day, just let her be happy if that working as a checkout girl in Aldi let it be

gamerchick · 23/10/2013 14:39

It's fine to say all that on here but please don't utter any of it to your daughter.

She's taking baby steps.. doing those kind of jobs will up her confidence.. you have no idea what she'll choose to do in time.

Let her find her own way.. If she goes back into education then that's fine. If she doesn't then that's fine too. Just be her mum.

ExcuseTypos · 23/10/2013 14:41

You should be incredibly proud of your dd and you should make sure she knows this. She's been through several years of hell. Give her time to find herself again.

She's got the rest of her life to continue her education if she wants to. She needs to do what right for her, at this moment in time. Support her and tell her you love her and are proud of her, every day.

EldritchCleavage · 23/10/2013 14:42

I'm not going to flame you for being so honest. Just please don't let on to your DD that you are embarassed or disappointed.

As others have said, it's much less than she could be doing, but it is still a step on the road to recovery, so welcome it. If you push the academic route too much, your DD might regress on the emotional front. I suspect this is all she can countenance at the moment.

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/10/2013 14:42

She is happier. She may get even happier shelf stacking in Asda. If not, she can look at something else. Your job is to facilitate this.

It is tough to have your ideas of what your dreams and hopes will be for your children changed. Go to the SEN boards and see what the parents there are going through. It is mourning of sorts, for the future, for the DD you thought you would see.

However, see needs you to love her unconditionally ATM. It is VERY early days with what she went through. Give her time.

frustratedashell · 23/10/2013 14:42

My daughter was raped a few years ago. Would not report it. She has not really faced up to it. She had a few counselling sessions but didn't feel that it helped. She was at uni at the time, still is. She has soldiered on. I just want to say to you give her time. Be proud of her. She may be applying for these jobs because her confidence is low. I think she's done brilliantly considering what she's been through. She may well go into a better job at a later date. Praise her, support her. Don't take away her power to choose her path. The rapist took away her power. She is doing well. Private message me if it would help

Dawndonnaagain · 23/10/2013 14:43

I really wanted to reply to this, but I'm so angry that I actually can't. Angry about what happened and so fucking angry at the snobbery in that post. I'm sorry, but that really is the nicest thing I can think of to say.

spindlyspindler · 23/10/2013 14:43

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youretoastmildred · 23/10/2013 14:43

My mum is like you. I was depressed and nothing was ever good enough for her.
I am still depressed and now in recovery from a drink problem.
Please be proud of your dd. give her hugs and let her talk to you and congratulate her on getting herself together. She sounds amazing. Give her hugs from me.

Your dd is not an accessory to make you look good. She is a person.

OHforDUCKScake · 23/10/2013 14:43

I think she has done absolutely brilliantly!

She feels good enough to look for work when only a short time she was on her knees.

Small steps mean huge things. This is a small step, she is getting there, she is doing bloody great.

Dont push her.

gamerchick · 23/10/2013 14:43

And btw I know that asda can progress you from the tills up to management. I don't know about other supermarkets.

CoolStoryBro · 23/10/2013 14:44

I'm not going to judge you as, Heaven knows, you've been through a horribly worrying time. And I do understand the cousin thing. Unfortunately, parenting can bring out old, past sibling rivalries, even if it's only sub-consciously.

But I do agree with everyone else who says you have many reasons to feel immensely proud of your dd. Even if she's "just" working in Asda, look how far she has come. Let her re-enter the world in her own way and pace and just support her. And, damn it, both of you hold your heads high. There is no shame here for any of you!

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Spaulding · 23/10/2013 14:44

YABVU. She could have let this rapist ruin her life, stayed indoors and not trusted the world ever again. But she is getting better, applying for jobs to ease herself back into the working world. You should be over the moon that she has found the courage to do this. What a slap in the face it would be for her if she knew how embarressed you were to tell people what she's doing now.

And working in a shop isn't a rubbish job. Okay it's not up there with being a doctor or a lawyer but it's a decent job. I've worked in retail all my life and I enjoy it. I don't see myself as not being one of "life's achievers". I used to be very shy and quiet when I started my first retail job. I can now confidently talk to anyone and it's down to being a customer facing job. Perhaps a job in a shop around lots of people will be the boost in confidence she needs, make new friends and trust people again. My parents have never pushed an academic career on me and I'd be heartbroken if they ever said they were embarressed by my career choice.

HormonalHousewife · 23/10/2013 14:44

Oh how heartbreaking this is for all of you.

I can completely understand why you should feel like this after all everything was going so well, so normally, but now its all changed. Its all different to how it should have been.

Be brave. Little steps. Day by day. Be supportive of her and be kind to yourself too.

I'm glad you posted this as I know i would have 'judged' if I saw this happening to a friend or family member. Reading your story has helped me not to be so condescending.

averywoomummy · 23/10/2013 14:44

What a heartbreaking situation for you. I think your DD has done fabulously to get on the road to recovery from a terrible situation.

It could be that a simple, stress free job is just what she needs to feel brave enough to get out there it gives her a chance to enter the real world but she won't be too pressured by it which is probably just what she needs. She is only 19 so has plenty of time to get back into Academia if she wants to. I would let her do the job and maybe discuss college university in a year or so.

Also if she is bright and hardworking then lots of large companies such as Asda/Boots etc have management training schemes so there is no reason why she couldn't end up with a very good position by applying for promotion internally. Some of them even pay trainees to attend college uni!

WhatHappenedToMyGirl · 23/10/2013 14:46

I am definitely not letting her know how I feel, not even letting DH know, as he would be disappointed in me for thinking these unhelpful, damaging thoughts.

Thank you all for your v valuable advice. I am wrong and BU, and I am going to change that.

Thanks
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Coupon · 23/10/2013 14:47

She's been through a very bad time and is doing the best she can. She needs your support, not judgement. She doesn't exist so that you can obtain other people's approval of her career, and if any of these other people judge then their opinion is not worth anything. I'm not surprised if her confidence isn't as high as some other people who haven't suffered in the same way.

Her choices are her own, she's 19 and can make her own decisions. I'm sure she is well aware that others have jobs that some people think are "better" but she certainly doesn't need her loved ones rubbing it in or pushing her into things she either doesn't want or isn't ready for at the moment. She may "get there" into some other field of work or she may not. Either way she needs unconditional love and support.

madoldbird · 23/10/2013 14:47

I'm sorry, but I can't believe what I have just read. Your daughter went through a horrific attack, had what sounds like PTSD or similar, has managed to get through it, get back on track, and now feels ready for paid employment? Wow, I would be immensely proud of her, not embarrassed about her plans.

Would you go up to the "shelf stacker in Asda" and tell them if they were your son or daughter you would be embarrassed of their job?? There is never anything wrong with an honest day's work.

Your daughter is clearly very intelligent. Whatever job she manages to secure now will give her confidence, self esteem, a routine to her day and extremely valuable work experience. She may decide to work up through the ranks, or to go back to studying, which she can do at any age. If she has intelligence and strength of character (which she clearly has) she will succeed in life.

WishIHadAFunkyName · 23/10/2013 14:48

Look how far she has come from such a horrible, horrible place.
Let her deal with it how she needs to at the moment. Maybe she just wants an 'easy ride' at the moment. As she is academically bright, she may change her mind after a while and go to uni.
Why are you embarrassed? She could just be taking a year out for all anyone else cares. Think of your daughter rather than other people.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 23/10/2013 14:48

Oh OP, your poor daughter. And poor you as well. I don't think your feelings are wrong but life has changed for her and you are coming to terms with that too. Give her more time. She's only 19, if she wants to go back for her A-levels or to college, she's got years and years for that. If she is happier as she is, then that's fine too.

enriquetheringbearinglizard · 23/10/2013 14:48

whathappenedtomygirl/a worried mother
Of course you're a worried mother, I don't think it's BU to have concerns in the back of your mind, because although you're proud of her and relieved that she's now getting help and responding, it's not how you thought her life would be turning out.

What's happened to her and as a result of it to you and your DH is horrendous, but don't let it sour your relationship with her, let her do her own thing and in her own time.
She might well go back to studying, she might not but she is achieving and that is a brilliant thing.
My DC went off the rails and we had worry for years, but despite quitting after gcses, they now have a very responsible job. There were various minimum wage jobs along the route, but it helped to get to where things are now.

19 is very young and she shouldn't feel pressure to be getting on with things, lay off those thoughts and just support her, don't fret.
Your feelings are natural but you must put them out of your mind, don't measure your child against others her age, measure her against her achievements and I'm sure she stacks up as well, if not better than a lot of her peers. Be proud.

Coupon · 23/10/2013 14:49

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ghostonthecanvas · 23/10/2013 14:50

Its hard. We all want so much for our children. Most of all, we want them to be happy. Its difficult to put our dreams away. Your daughter has changed. Her bravery is amazing. You need to realise that what she is achieving now is so, so much more than she thought possible a couple of years ago. You should be proud of the way you and her father have helped her. Shake the negative thoughts off. Flowers her future is still bright.