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I don't f***ing believe it

241 replies

Neeliethere · 02/10/2013 02:24

OH has met someone else. I get that. It hurts. He's taking her away for the week next week. I am at the marital home with my daughter. The marital home has a large drive. She lives 50 miles east of here and they are travelling a long way west.

They are going on holiday to an apartment we have rented as a family for the last six years that I found through a friend of mine and I have personally booked every year since then. Normally me and my daughter and her friend go but a few times with him as well. I am now feeling that I can never go there again because I will be thinking about how they were there having a lovely romantic time. I feel sick just writing this. Tell me I'm not mad.

As if that isn't bad enough he informs me that she is planning to drive to our house and leave her car on our drive while they are away. Am I going mad again? Is that just beyond the pale. The other woman's car on my drive whilst he takes her to our special holiday place shagging her senseless.

God the pain of it. How on earth do people manage to conduct themselves in such a heartless way????

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kali110 · 02/10/2013 15:21

Sorry youre so upset op.
I do agree that ow didnt technically do anything wrong as he was a single man but she is being insensitive by thinking she was going to leave her car at house where the wife still lives.
I do wonder if the husband has actually told the new hf that the wife had moved back in...

OrmirianResurgam · 02/10/2013 15:23

What the hell is it with some of these people? Why the deliberate cruelty? There seem to be so many thread on here lately when the leaver/cheater treats their partner with such unkindnes. How can you do that to someone?

So so sorry OP xx

Sallykitten · 02/10/2013 15:36

Buy cocaine. Stick in their luggage. Tip off customs.

Famzilla · 02/10/2013 15:36

What does your DD feel about all this? If she was actually begging you to move out I think that speaks volumes about the situation.

vtechjazz · 02/10/2013 15:38

Daughter is nearly 16, when she will be old enough to get married herself.

gobbynorthernbird · 02/10/2013 15:41

Ormirian the OP was the leaver.

ILoveMakeUp · 02/10/2013 15:44

Why be so horrible about her? Your criticisms focus on the fact that she's poor and a single parent. Why be so nasty? She hasn't done anything wrong. You were separated before she got together with your DH.

I wonder if you would be as nasty if the OW was middle-class. I doubt it.

MamaM76 · 02/10/2013 15:50

Gosh, what a hurtful man. So sorry to hear it. While he is away, make a list of assets in the house, find out his savings and how much he has in stocks and shares etc.
make copies of any legal ownership doc that is worth having. This is what it will come down to if you are proceeding with divorce.

At the end of the day, it is his duty to provide a secure home for you and your daughter until she is an adult. Fair chance you get the house.
And please see a solicitor for advice.

Dahlen · 02/10/2013 15:52

I don't think it matters who left first. All that does is show which person broke first, often after considerable provocation from the person who has been 'left'.

The OP has made some not-very-nice comments about the NW and apportioned blame where it's not due, but she's hurting. Hurt people lash out and not always at the deserving target. If the OP is to be believed, her H has been abusing her for years and creating a dreadful home-life for their child. She left to escape that herself but not upset her DD's stability. She has now realised she needs to come back to protect her DD and not to lose any stake in the marital assets. She has done nothing wrong in any of that, and her STBXH's behaviour - which seems deliberately inflammatory - seems to validate her version of events. He is behaving in typical fashion of an abusive man who likes to manipulate his wife into appearing irrational and spiteful so that he can pull the rug out from under her.

Despite pointing out that the NW doesn't deserve any of the character assassination she's received, I have a lot of sympathy with the OP.

GogoGobo · 02/10/2013 15:56

Sorry vtech but I think it's a disgraceful suggestion to take a 15 year old to the lawyer for them to hear all of the dirty laundry and obvious vitriol between mum and dad.

GogoGobo · 02/10/2013 15:59

dahlen i have interpreted from the Ops posts that she left and hoped her DD would go with her but DD chose to stay at home. Not certain it was some self-sacrificing move for the benefit of her daughter

bigkidsdidit · 02/10/2013 16:01

I don't understand. Isnt this like you and DH splitting up, DH moving out, you getting a new boyfriend and the boyfriend leaving his car on the drive of the house you live in? Why is it immoral?

SaucyJack · 02/10/2013 16:10

If the OP is to be believed

That's a pretty big "if" from where I'm sat tho Dahlen. I get that some of you may know the OP from other threads where she may have come across better...... but going by this thread she hardly strikes me as a pleasant, straightforward reasonable person whose ju,dgement as to what is and isn't acceptable behaviour in other people should be taken at face value.

Sorry OP...... but you just don't.

Sinful1 · 02/10/2013 16:28

So basically, you left your husband he's now seeing someone else you're pissed off?

He meant to stay single forever?

But you clearly think.very little of him if you think she only wants him for the house maybe she actually likes him

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 02/10/2013 16:30

Neelie hope you can focus on preparing for DD's upcoming party while her father's out of the country. Yes he will no doubt swan in and yes he may even bring along you-know-who but please keep thinking of DD.

As an aside I would just say that time is amazingly elastic where new partners are concerned, a new face often appears very shortly after a separation, well-fancy-that, we-only-just-met, how-lucky-am-I-to-find-true-love-so-soon, etc.

Btw never mind what NW sees in OP's H, what does he see in her, being the manipulative control freak he's been. Neelie I know you are anxious about who H brings in to your DD's home but I say fair play to her for not introducing her DCs to him too soon. If she is going to feature heavily in H's life from now onwards she will be in a position to make DD's life happy or very miserable, please keep that in mind.

Dahlen · 02/10/2013 16:32

Saucy - I don't believe the vast majority of people on the internet TBH, including a lot on MN, but it doesn't change my advice. Someone somewhere will be experiencing something very similar to the OP, whether it's fictitious or not, and it's those reading who benefit from people taking the time to post advice or support.

Jolleigh · 02/10/2013 16:40

I'm not certain I've followed this right...

You left 5 months ago. On the say so of your teenage daughter?
He attempted to move on with his life.
He met someone.
A few weeks after he met someone, you decided you're moving back to the marital home.
What's he supposed to do?

Or have I gotten all the x posts mixed up?

I'd never say the relationship was fixable as I don't know it personally but there does seem to be a lot of hostility directed towards his new girlfriend which I don't think she deserves at all.

You seem extremely angry. And like others, I too would be surprised if all the blame was on his side.

AmberLeaf · 02/10/2013 17:04

Sallykitten

Buy cocaine. Stick in their luggage. Tip off customs

Please tell me that is a joke?

mayorquimby · 02/10/2013 17:06

All the advice on a similar thread with the op's ex returning was that he had no right to return, put clothes out on the drive, change the locks, that moving back in was a controlling avusive move etc.

mayorquimby · 02/10/2013 17:07

Oh and it's a good thing the op has written to the husband saying she'll report the car abandoned etc.
Nice osier trail in case she does decide to do something

mayorquimby · 02/10/2013 17:08

*paper

tombliboouun · 02/10/2013 18:09

Sorry but the OP sounds unhinged & the exH sounds just as bad. There are obviously a toxic combination.
I smell a rat.

tombliboouun · 02/10/2013 18:10

*they not there

Takingthemickey · 02/10/2013 20:10

All the people smelling a rat why? Have you never been in the throes of emotion before and had some not too kind thoughts. Is it not better that the OP vents here rather than act out in real life?

By all means tell her how to deal with this in a more reasonable way. Hoicking your 'oh me so reasonable, you so crazy' pants does not help her. She is dealing with her life as she knew it crashing around her.

OP sounds like you are better out of this relationship.

Neeliethere · 02/10/2013 20:27

"The OP has made some not-very-nice comments about the NW and apportioned blame where it's not due, but she's hurting. Hurt people lash out and not always at the deserving target. If the OP is to be believed, her H has been abusing her for years and creating a dreadful home-life for their child. She left to escape that herself but not upset her DD's stability. She has now realised she needs to come back to protect her DD and not to lose any stake in the marital assets. She has done nothing wrong in any of that, and her STBXH's behaviour - which seems deliberately inflammatory - seems to validate her version of events. He is behaving in typical fashion of an abusive man who likes to manipulate his wife into appearing irrational and spiteful so that he can pull the rug out from under her".

Well thank you all. Light the blue touch paper and run!!!

Dahlen what you have posted above is absolutely the situation. I am hurting because I did and still do suffer a lot of emotional abuse and manipulation. I've spent four hours today with the lady that does the Freedom Programme in our area. She was a diamond. She can see why I am so angry and lashing out. But apart from here and with the ladies at the Freedom Programme I have not directed my anger at him or her. I do agree she may well be, and probably is, blameless in all of this. She has gone on a dating web site, got chatting to someone that has charmed the socks off her and got involved very quickly. (just like I did all those years ago). What her motives are for being with my H are not up for scrutiny by me I acknowledge that. But it doesn't stop it hurting like hell. I do question her acceptance of being taken to the very property that his former wife and family have used for years though. I know I wouldn't like it. I would want my new partner to have a bit more imagination and put a bit more effort into finding a place for our first holiday together. Not just rock up at the place that's easiest for him to book.

Yes our marriage was toxic and exhausting. There was hardly ever a conversation that didn't end in a row. You would have to record some of the conversations to believe the crazy making stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Tonight whilst getting ready for Guides he felt he needed to moan at me about the lack of milk in the fridge despite there being plenty. He just wanted something to start up and get a reaction. He has spent all day sending me text messages which I ignore and they mostly end with the sentence "just leave me alone" and then sends another one. It is truly bizarre behaviour. He then said he wanted a truce and then started talking about the details about our split. I just walked away and replied "it is not appropriate for us to try and sort this between us. It will always need a third party to mediate we are unable to communicate effectively and sensibly. Best we get to mediators as soon as possible".

He shouts after me saying that the other woman is three times the woman I will ever be. They do ten times more things together than we ever did. I am just a jealous dried up old cow. I can't wait to be free of you. I hate you. I hate the sight of you. Why don't you just leave us alone. DD doesn't want you here either. I don't know why you keep hanging around. Just fuck off why don't you.

I just have to remain impassive in the midst of that and stay calm.

That is the standard format. He doesn't do this when anyone else can hear but I suppose if I control myself it is just a matter of time.

However, when our DD arrived home he continued the conversation in moderate tones minus the swearing and tried to make it a standard conversation. Again I refuse to speak to him and say hello to my daughter and he just stands there and fumes. As soon as she is out of earshot he starts it up again.

Of course he will tell me on a fairly regular basis that I am as mad a box of frogs or off my rocker, or a lunatic or a collection of several terminologies which allude to my mental health and lack of it.

I just want him to move out and get on with the lovely lady and let me enjoy peace in my home with my daughter. Is that too much to ask?

I tell you living with an emotional abuser is not box of chocolates I can tell you, not even chocolate frogs!!!

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