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I don't f***ing believe it

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Neeliethere · 02/10/2013 02:24

OH has met someone else. I get that. It hurts. He's taking her away for the week next week. I am at the marital home with my daughter. The marital home has a large drive. She lives 50 miles east of here and they are travelling a long way west.

They are going on holiday to an apartment we have rented as a family for the last six years that I found through a friend of mine and I have personally booked every year since then. Normally me and my daughter and her friend go but a few times with him as well. I am now feeling that I can never go there again because I will be thinking about how they were there having a lovely romantic time. I feel sick just writing this. Tell me I'm not mad.

As if that isn't bad enough he informs me that she is planning to drive to our house and leave her car on our drive while they are away. Am I going mad again? Is that just beyond the pale. The other woman's car on my drive whilst he takes her to our special holiday place shagging her senseless.

God the pain of it. How on earth do people manage to conduct themselves in such a heartless way????

OP posts:
ilovebabytv · 07/10/2013 23:04

OP tbh you sound like a fucking nightmare. And imo this thread is a typical example of the double standards on mn. Had you been the man you would have rightly been flamed. YOU moved out. If i was your dp i think i would be fucking pissed off with you too.

DameDeepRedBetty · 07/10/2013 23:43

Hi Neelie I've been lurking through this thread so far.

I'm adding my bit now as I've realised the story is resonating with me, it's very similar to my grandparent's split-up, and the very long, sorry and nasty saga that followed. It trashed my father's life (the child, i.e. your dd) of the relationship.

My grandmother, who was emotionally abused for many years, refused to back off in any way and kept re-engaging with my grandfather, even as he remarried and had new families - twice.

She had the excuse that the divorce laws of the earlier twentieth century made her far more dependent on his whims than we are now, thank god, nevertheless, she would keep going back to dig dirty sticks back into her own wounds. I remember an utterly ridiculous row about ownership of a sofa taking place at a wedding ffs!

Please, for the sake of your own MH and that of your DD longterm, get out, get legal advice, and start dealing with your ex ONLY VIA SOLICITOR. My grandmother told me this when I was fifteen, a few weeks before her death, she said she wished she'd realised it was the only way forward twenty five years before, it would have saved her and her son (my dad) so much grief.

Neeliethere · 08/10/2013 00:02

There is definitely two camps here aren't there. Yes I left him. I would argue I was driven out of the house. But he would say not. It is not nice living with someone that screams "divorce" if I so much as asked him to clean the shit off the toilet after himself never mind all the other stuff.

I lived with a spoilt man child for 20 years. Our daughter said that she didn't care who it was she just wanted us to part to stop the arguing.

So in the face of that he, the one that often worked away from home, often went away for long weekends and holidays with mates, and spent next to no time with his daughter as she grew up said the following "why should I move out, I've done nothing wrong"! Now there's a grown up attitude for you.

I would add to that I run a business from a room at the house so my need to be there was much greater than his. His input into the home was minimal at best - almost non existent at worst. So yes I cracked and moved out just to get away from the shouting and to give my daughter some peace. He feigned distress the last day I was there and from then it was a case of "woo hoo I've got rid of her, I can get out there and find someone else now".

No, he wasn't the poor broken hearted jilted deserted husband. He drove me out with abuse and threatening behaviour which my daughter witnessed most of the time. Once I was out he turned on the charm for her and she loved it. Mummy has gone and daddy is being lovely now. It must be mummy that makes him horrible. A classic trick. She would spend equal time with me and him but soon this became too complex so she started to spend most of her time with her friend's family. Added to that it was becoming pretty apparent that he was hardly there with her when she was there.

I continued, as agreed, to use the room for my business on a daily basis because this income helped me keep my head above water financially. As soon as he met the new woman he started making noises about my access and how he would like to restrict it even going so far as threatening to change the locks and asking me to only make appointments with my clients at certain times that suited him. Then he started to complain about the clients parking on the drive etc etc This would have rendered my little business unworkable and reduce my income quite substantially when I was still in need of it.

So yes I did move out. And yes one could say I left him. And yes as far as the new woman is concerned he was a single man. But, and this the big thing, I felt aggrieved as I had clearly put myself through a great deal of pain and distress for what I thought would be good for my daughter and it just didn't turn out like that. She is not happy. She is not being cared for or loved properly. She is being manipulated and used for his purposes. Primarily as a, how can we put it, method of showing this new woman what a wonderful father he is, he must be because his daughter lives with him and not the her mother. Of course, her mother is all the cows under the sun for leaving her to hear him talk about it. I will add that the house I rented is walking distance from our house and even closer to her school.

Logic, common sense and sheer decency says he should have done the right thing and been the one to move out. But no, why should he, he had done nothing wrong in his head. He was the victim in all of this. He doesn't give a flying fuck about his daughter. She is just being used to further his own cause. She is just being manipulated to isolate me from her. I have had 5 years of it now. He does it with her, with my family and my friends. Language like "you are off your rocker" or "you are mad, even your daughter/dad/sisters/friends think so they told me. Of course when you ask the individual in question they are just gobsmacked that he said such a thing but the damage is done.

There is no easy or nice way to leave or break up with such an individual. Even though he has someone else he still spends huge amounts of energy trying to cause me yet more upset and isolate me from my family and friends. Whatever other's may think I need to be with my daughter. She needs me to be there for her. It's not about the house itself. It's about her stability and her feeling loved and cared for and not manipulated and used one minute and ignored the next. I have lost count of the amount of times I've asked her if her dad is with her and she says no, he just went out but didn't say where he was going and when he would be back. You don't treat anyone like that if you are living with them surely? Well I wouldn't.

I do feel the need to defend myself a bit. I have been sidetracked about the new girlfriend. It is not her fault that my husband is a complete tool. She will learn in her own good time and I wish her luck with it. Hopefully she'll be smarter than I was and suss it out earlier. Or maybe a relationship like that will suit her. But that is their business not mine. I just need to make sure my daughter feels secure. Already she is seeing the cracks. She has commented on the stark difference to his demeanour when he's talking the girlfriend and when he's not. As she said "he's all nicey, nicey to me when she's there or on the phone and he's asking me something with her still on the line, but as soon as he finishes the call he changes back to shouting and being angry". Kids don't just make this stuff up you know.

However, I am very grateful to all of you that have said that I need to move on. I agree. I find I'm not in the slightest bit interested in the car outside my house. I thought it would upset me each day but it hasn't.

The house will be sold eventually when the divorce and everything is agreed and settled. I do have a solicitor and I am acting according to his instructions.

thanks for everyone's input though, it has been most enlightening.

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olgaga · 08/10/2013 00:16

Good luck OP, stay focused. Get the divorce and finances sorted, start to make plans.

You're one hell of a writer BTW.

NuttyNathalie · 25/10/2015 11:29

I have very recently discovered my DP is having a relationship with OW. I have been with this "man" for 15 years. We have 2 DC. 8 and 11. My DD was the one to find out he was seeing OW. She looked on his phone. Immediately told me. All hell broke loose. He told me we had never had a relationship. I'm just the mother of his children. He's found someone who accepts he wants to remain in the family unit. He refuses to move out. He's extremely controlling and makes it very difficult for me to move out. I had a nervous breakdown and had to be put on Diazapam. I smashed my hand through a window out of anger. I completely lost the will to live. I went to stay with my parents but couldn't be without my kids and DP said he would move OW in to look after kids if I didn't come back. My kids are settled at school and won't move over a hundred miles away to my parents house. So I'm trapped here. He continues to see her. I rely completely on him. I don't work. Have no money. He owns everything. He says he will never leave us or move in with her but he is in a relationship with her. We no longer have sex but he often asks for cuddles. He says he can't have sex with me because of his relationship but wishes he could. I'm a complete wreck. I'm so confused and hurt. I recorded him on a tablet recently talking to her on the phone when I was on the school run. He told her that to make her feel more secure they could work towards getting married! Yet he tells me and the kids he's never leaving us. We are a family unit apparently. I want to be angry but I just feel so sad. My kids both have councilling at school. We are going on holiday tomorrow but I know he will be constantly texting her or calling the bitch OW. She is jealous that we are going on holiday apparently. He's with her right now. Stayed overnight with her. I need a hug.

BastardGoDarkly · 25/10/2015 11:38

Oh Nutty please start your own thread in relationships for some advice and support, sounds really tough Flowers

SoleBizzzz · 25/10/2015 12:11

A single Mother on benefits? Oh how shameful

maras2 · 25/10/2015 12:15

ZOMBIE 2 year old thread!

Gruntfuttock · 25/10/2015 12:32

NuttyNathalie why on earth did you resurrect a 2 yr old thread? Surely starting your own is preferable.

Skiingmaniac · 25/10/2015 12:36

Would be interested to know how this thread concluded though - I hope the DD was ok.

MyIronLung · 25/10/2015 22:24

Fucking hell! I've just spent the whole evening reading this not realising this is an old thread!
I think I may have just learnt a valuable life lesson...CHECK THE SODDING DATE ON THE OP!!

DixieNormas · 25/10/2015 22:32

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shazzarooney99 · 25/10/2015 22:48

Right i think he is taking the utter piss out of you, you need to think to yourself mentally he is not going to get back with me, now what you need to do is tell him shes not leaving the car there, hes taking the bloody piss!

MoriartyIsMyAngel · 25/10/2015 23:26

For heavens sake - just read this whole thing to find out it was resolved years ago. Could we have the Zombie Thread warning at the top of page one instead?

Start your own thread Nathalie, I hope you get the advice you need.

And if Neelie is around, I'd love to get an update. I hope everything worked out.

MoriartyIsMyAngel · 25/10/2015 23:27

*not resolved years ago, written years ago

Postchildrenpregranny · 26/10/2015 00:17

It's not really about the parking is it?

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