To think that parents that smoke near their DC should be prosecuted....

[CityTiliDie]

If you forced a child to eat/drink a carcenogenic substance you would be arrested. But just because the poison comes from a licenced, taxed product then this seems to be perfectly acceptable.

Lung disease is too common in children of smokers and yet the authorities do fuck all about the cause.

Also parents of obese children should be prosecuted for abuse. It is the parents fault that their offspring are fat. Recently a 10 yr old girl weighed in at 24stone!!!!!! Now the NHS/SS will have to pick up the tab for getting this poor child back to a healthy weight.

I have 3DC all have a healthy relationship with food, exercise and their bodies. Its not fucking rocket science.

[MoreCrackThanHarlem]

I would love to know how the OP plans to police her war on dirty smoking parents.
Y'know, since it appears we have children being starved and abused to death. And no bugger notices.

[Spottypurse]

Luis - that's OK I'm a picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover and I'm a sinner

I love that song

[LuisSuarezTeeth]

I really love your peaches Spotty. So we're quits.

Maybe we should get a room

[Spottypurse]

Do you wanna shake my tree?

[skyflyer]

YANBU I hate seeing people smoke with children, especially when they have them in slings, makes my blood boil.

[Spottypurse]

Do you speak of the pompitous of love MrsDeVere?

[Lioninthesun]

Erm I honestly can argue with the fact that smoking is akin to sexually abusing your child
I have 3 cigs a day, all outside when DD isn't looking (eating breakfast and then lunch) and one of which is when she is in bed. I may sometimes add a few on when she is asleep, but all are outside and she is not aware.
I wash my hands and try to brush teeth afterwards, although this isn't always possible. I am not trying to defend smoking, but to say that it is as bad as sexually abusing your child is seriously twisted.

[Lioninthesun]

I assume by your last message that you think social services should take children away from 'persistent' smokers in the same way they would physical abusers and sexual abusers? More fodder for the adoption/foster/prison system?
I know smoking isn't great and is probably killing me. I do want to stop and will some day soon enough as I did in pregnancy. However I, unlike most of the country it seems, only have a drink perhaps once a week (and no more than 2 glasses). Surely if you are going down this road of suitable parents then those MC parents polishing off a bottle of wine or two every night could be classed as putting their children at risk (if there was a fire or whatever they wouldn't be as responsive)?

[IHeartKingThistle]

Lion the op is talking about parents who smoke around their children, and you don't do that.

[CityTiliDie]

Lion I do agree with the alcohol too. You cannot be totally responsible for a small child if you are under the influence of alcohol as you cannot drive legally why should you be able to look after children whist under the influence.

You dont want to stop smoking. If you did you would. I just hope your DC grows up with the education that shows her the evils of those little white cancer sticks and avoids them totally.

[HoneyDragon]

I can't drive legally whilst sober. That's my future as a parent buggered.

[Tiredmumno1]

Tiredmum - I'm a smidgeonette concerned that you are not taking me seriously

I am trying I really am, but it's proving difficult

[Ghostsgowoooh]

I can't drive either atm, I don't have a car that works.

DOes that mean in order to be a good responsible loving parent you have to own and drive a car

Oh dear

[Lioninthesun]

OP I do actually want to give up and I will, just not right now. I am on my own with DD all of the time and when things got rough with my ex taking us to Court over CM payments last year I needed 5 mins every now and then to de-stress. It is currently being re-assessed again as he is committing fraud and I am back to being stressed and on a knife edge about whether he is going to pop up. You have your dog to walk - I cannot afford a dog as well as DD but I can afford rolling baccy at £7 a month, which is all I use.
I don't drive either so am in the doghouse that I also cannot afford with that too

[ForgetfulNameChanger]

I don't drive either. Whoops :(

I do think she was meaning that alcohol impares affects your ability to react in an emergency though. In which case, she does have a point.

[ForgetfulNameChanger]

Impares affects yesssss

[HoneyDragon]

Yeah .... I got that too, but if you can't drive as you are deemed incapable, than logically you can't parent.

I wonder what I'll do with all the free time?

[LuisSuarezTeeth]

I'm sorry OP I agree with you to an extent, but you are being unrealistic as opposed to unreasonable. You are clearly very definite in your views, I think it would be unusual if a majority agreed with you.

[HoneyDragon]

Sockpixie


The blue was free of carcinogens, so I reckon I'll just get the Stocks

[ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath]

Not sure where I stand now.

I am a smoker, I do not smoke near DS but he knows I smoke (outside), also, I cannot drive so don't own a car. However, this means he is not stuck in a car with a smoker and I am teetotal so my response times aren't impaired.