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newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 10:56

I am a new mummy. Whilst pregnant my fiancés mother introduced him to her colleague as 'this is my son', then pointed at my bump and said 'this is my grandson' and failed to even acknowledge my existence, I was really upset but left it. They live about 45 minutes away and we see them about 4-5 times per year but probably get a monthly invite to see them.

Baby was born a bit early and was unwell and spent a few days in NICU. After I gave birth his parents visited the next day, and then a few days later. We went home when baby was 4 days old. We had a text request to see baby again that weekend, we said no as we wanted time alone, baby is now 3 weeks old and they have seen him twice and we have received a further 3 text requests to see him. I was really upset because it's like they think they have a right or claim over my child, there have been more requests to see him in the last 3 weeks then we see them in a year. It really panics me. I don't want to start with any set routine, or any obligations etc. So, last night I was upset, my mum got involved, I explained how I was still hurt by lack of introduction, how it annoys me we barely see them and now there is constant request to see us, then I went on to say how I don't want to keep passing my baby around to people just because others think I 'should'. I also went onto say how I am worried about registering the baby, because once dad is on the birth certificate (nothing against baby's dad) that then the baby is officially linked to the other family. My mum told me I was abnormal and obviously depressed, I'm not at all. But I have lived in a very controlling environment, where I have constantly been told what I 'should' do, lived with a mother whose mood swings are extreme, been threatened to be kicked out more times then I can remember, including when I first started dating baby's dad. I have never moved out even though I am in my late 20's. I have lived in a very unpredictable environment for years with very controlling behaviour.

Then there is my family, we are living with my mum at the minute. They already have grandchildren who live away who they have seen every few weeks since birth, but I have seen years of arguments and my sibling being told what is right or wrong in terms of the children etc.

I have passed this baby to every visitor when really I don't want to. Last week my cousin came to visit. My aunt, uncle and cousin often just turn up without letting us know. Something again I find hard. I have just had a baby but it isn't my house, so anyone can just turn up and I just have to deal with it. I was sitting on the opposite sofa with the baby, my mum asked my cousin to sit next to me so she could see the baby, she said 'I can see It from here', my mum then asked me to move next to my cousin so she could take a photo, my cousin refused to have a photo taken. My cousin, aunt, uncle and parents went outside. My mum then told my cousin was upset. I spoke to my cousin and she said it was because her sister now wasn't letting her see her niece that weekend. I didn't think anything else of it. The next day I got up and my mum was glaring at me, being moody, off it etc. I asked what was wrong. I was told how my cousin was upset because I hadn't let her hold the baby. I said she wouldn't even sit next to us. My mum said that they could all tell by my face that I didn't want her to hold the baby. This resulted in me saying not to tell me what I was thinking.

My mum then went on to say that I 'should' have walked into the room and just handed over the baby to my cousin straight way. That resulted in me saying not to tell me what I should be doing with my own child etc. My mums mood over this carried on for several days, including text messages telling me to leave home etc.

My mum is extremely controlling, always telling people what they 'should' do. I found the fact that she was shouting at me, and sobbing her hear out because my cousin didn't hold the baby quite frightening and made me feel even more protective over him.

It worries me that now the baby is born his family are now expecting to see us more and continually asking to see us. Last night I ended up in tears. I don't want to have any set routine, obligations, expectations in terms of grandparents seeing the baby. I find it upsetting that we only saw the a handful of times before the baby was born and now they will push for that to increase.

I find it hard at home because I have spent years listening to my mum going on about the other grandchildren and seeing what state of upset she gets in about them, it is extreme, the awful texts that get sent about them and that's when they live over an hour away. Their family are going through a divorce and now my mum is going on about grandparents rights, and going to court to get access. The whole thing makes me panic about my child and feel very protective.

There have been so many visitors and I have handed him over to every one. Then there are fiancés parents now constantly requesting to see us. I just want us to be left alone. My mum does a lot of child care for her other grandchildren, I don't want to get into this, I think it makes boundaries very difficult.

I just don't know what to do really.

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Nanny0gg · 28/07/2013 20:56

The way these threads always descend into 'you'd better hope you don't have sons because some evil DIL is going to make sure you get yours' type shit really pisses me off.

But the OP has had a son, so not unreasonable to ask her to think to the future.

catsrus · 28/07/2013 21:01

my dcs have ended up with the most amazing relationship with my (ex)MIL and it is a delight to see. PLEASE don't deny your son the opportunity to have that kind of relationship with his grandparents.

To be honest it really does sound like the issues and problems are with you - and are as a result of your own family issues - the inlaws don't seem to be unreasonable in what they are asking.

MiaowTheCat · 28/07/2013 21:03

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Trazzletoes · 28/07/2013 21:13

Miaow er, not what I was getting from curlew's posts at all.

I do think that a lot of responses on this type of thread can sometimes be coloured by each poster's own relations with their in-laws as well though.

Yes, they were rude to not acknowledge the OP but she hasn't said what else they've done to upset her so mich beyond wanting to spend time with their new DGS when they hadn't seen OP and her fiancé so much before. Hardly the crime of the century.

If there was a list as long as your arm (or even a couple more incidents) of rudeness and offensiveness, I could understand her attitude more, but one occasion of being very rude (but which could potentially be written off as enthusiastic thoughtlessness) leading to all this aggro is a bit much!

MiaowTheCat · 28/07/2013 21:15

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WinkyWinkola · 28/07/2013 21:18

I really hope when I'm a GP, I don't feel the need to compete with the other set of GPS over how often I see my gcs. That is pathetic

As far as I'm concerned, all visitors should just wait to be invited and not press for invitations. Often new parents just want to be left alone for a bit. That is absolutely fine and good for them.

And guess what, if you just back off chances are trust will grow and the new parents will be far far happier to entertain gps but it has to be on the new family unit's terms.

Op, you do sound anxious. You are right to be anxious as your mil was downright rude ignoring you.

You must be firm and polite when you want visitors. Your role is not to please other people. Your role is to mother your child, maintain your relationship and your well being in general.

Can you get your own place?

Curlew, three texts in three weeks may not sound like much but your banging on about it makes you sound decidedly stalkerish.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 21:19

Um... Miaow I think it is you that has the issue. Your post is about the chippiest thing I have seen on the entire thread.

WinkyWinkola · 28/07/2013 21:21

And relationships with gcs happen over a long time. A relationship with a gc has NOTHING to do with how much time you spend with him/her as a baby.

How much time you spend with your gcs when they are older may depend on how respectful and kind you were to your ds and dil in the beginning.

Op, there's a lot of skewed anti dil views on MN. Ignore.

LittleBearPad · 28/07/2013 21:30

OP really you are seeing issues with your in laws that may well not exist. Your obsession with boundaries is premature as your baby needs to be with you at the moment so overnight visits etc wont happen until you are ready. Three texts in three weeks is nothing. You are going to have to accept you'll see them more now you have a baby.

Re your own mother, move out. Your home environment isn't healthy and I think you are projecting the issues there onto your in laws. Just move out and do what you need to do to enable this.

Finally talk to your HV about PND. It's a bit odd to count how many people have held your baby and be so focused on it. You sound very anxious.

ThePrinceofCambridge · 28/07/2013 21:52

oP i REALLY feel for you, I also felt like an incubator and still am treated like one, the inconvient baby carrier who gets in the way of the baby.

The irony is until you start standing up for youself and promoting what you want. you will be treated not only like a baby but also like the annoying but neccasry barrier.

my mil would love to adopt my dc AND DO a much better job...I felt pecked and harrased too.....and I was.

I just wonder where you can get space and reprieve though, I dont think your mother will listen to or understand your needs....and your MIL isnt concerned about you either. Again, the irony is spending time with people like this does nothing for your self esteem and makes the whole problem worse.

DuelingFanjo · 28/07/2013 21:55

Partridge - I have a son I adore, an only child at that. I woud never take what some people post on here sometimes when they are having a hard time with in-laws as representative of all DILs.

If my hypothetical DIL of the future dislikes me then it won't be for the reasons most posted about on here.

ThePrinceofCambridge · 28/07/2013 22:05

Sadly op, having DC does suddenly throw relationships into chaos.

of course the GP want to see the GC, my god, if I am ever blessed with GC I will be an utter wreck, I will be the most ridiculous GP ever..however, if by that point, my relations have cooled with my DD's or I have fallen out with them, god forbid, then I guess I have to understand that our relationship does not facilaite the sort of relations I would desire with my GC.

I would have to work round that, and see what i can do to improve relations with the parents first, and foremost before letting go with my grand motherly mad desires to smother dominate spoil the GC.

Its happened to us, PILS didnt want to know us, treated us like shit, treat my DH like shit, then oooops, amazing GC comes and its very hard.

ThePrinceofCambridge · 28/07/2013 22:07

BTW sorry to go on here, but I have a very large family, and wide circle of freinds. I know of lots of very strained and indeed hostile DIL/MIL relations, and in some cases I can see both sides and why etc.

However, only one Aunt really does have a very nasty DIL who never ever gave her a chance, is very uptight and banned her DH and DC from ever seeing the family at all. She cut them all off from day one.

That is the only example I have heard where the DIl is truely - a nasty peice of work.

curlew · 28/07/2013 22:55

"Curlew, three texts in three weeks may not sound like much but your banging on about it makes you sound decidedly stalkerish."

Really? Who am I stalking?

Alisvolatpropiis · 28/07/2013 22:56

Bit baffled re people having a go at curlew.

Very odd.

curlew · 28/07/2013 23:00

It's because anyone who even suggests that MILs mint not be evil witches is fair game.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 23:01

If my hypothetical DIL of the future dislikes me then it won't be for the reasons most posted about on here.

Like the mortal sin of texting a couple of times to ask if you can see your new gc. Lets hope not.

Alisvolatpropiis · 28/07/2013 23:02

I had better hope nobody clocks my post then Grin

AuntyVirus · 28/07/2013 23:06

Sorry have not read all thread, but felt the need to post .

I am in a similar situation to your mil op.
My dss partner gave birth to their first child our first grandchild in May( she has dd from previous relationship).

I thought I had a good relationship with dil until just after baby was born . We had never had a cross word and I was a frequent visitor to their home.

Dss and and his partner are still in a relationship ( although it has been a bit off and on)she did not put his name on birth certificate , and will not allow partner or myself to visit baby.

We have had no contact with her since the last day in May, and rely on dss to keep us updated on how baby is .
It is hard knowing we have done nothing wrong other than want to be grandparents , and that her mother and family get to see him everyday.

All us grandparents want sometimes is to be a small part of our grandchildren's lives.

WinkyWinkola · 28/07/2013 23:11

Ah crap Curlew. The grief dils get here on MN is ridiculous.

The op has had a major life changing event. Major. Dismiss that if you like.

We all carry stuff from our past. That's life. It can be positive or negative or neutral. But it's stuff that carries on.

The op has to decide for herself what is acceptable for her and her partner at this early, vulnerable stage of her life. She's clearly being pestered and told what is best for her when she should decide that.

On this thread, you keep bringing up the number of texts the paternal gps have sent. Yawn. It's not at all helpful. There is clearly other stuff going on here for the op.

Actually I really believe gps, aunts, cousins whoever should really tread very very carefully around new parents. It's really not about these people at this early stage. It's selfish to think it is.

I find it incredible that people cannot just stand back and just let the new family be as THEY want for as long as they need.

Why do other relatives turn it around to be all about them and their wants and needs?

WinkyWinkola · 28/07/2013 23:14

And to suddenly want more visits once a gc is born is insulting actually. If my mother had wanted to come more often after I'd had dcs, I'd have found that rude. And weird.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 23:31

I have never understood why the birth of a baby on mumsnet is treated like the second coming. Billions of people have done it and continue to do it. It has historically been something that is done in the community and was taken for granted.

It is such a modern obsession to become so bloody precious about it - like a new mother has instant special status and cannot be accountable for her actions whilst in her confinement. So bloody weird. And yes I have had babies not long ago - my youngest isn't even 2 so I do know what it is like.

Alisvolatpropiis · 28/07/2013 23:35

Fgs OP has had a baby. She isn't recuperating after a life threatening illness. I thought families visiting and visiting more often was rather the norm.

IneedAsockamnesty · 28/07/2013 23:39

Hang on a bit. The baby is 3 weeks old they saw the baby twice in its first week, when they got home dad said they wanted to be left alone during paternity leave (usually 2 weeks) so in 2 weeks despite being told leave it for a couple of weeks they still asked 3 times.

I would find that annoying and a bit pushy as well.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 23:43

I think it is the op's totally unreasonable stance about the future that some people are a bit Shock about.