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newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 10:56

I am a new mummy. Whilst pregnant my fiancés mother introduced him to her colleague as 'this is my son', then pointed at my bump and said 'this is my grandson' and failed to even acknowledge my existence, I was really upset but left it. They live about 45 minutes away and we see them about 4-5 times per year but probably get a monthly invite to see them.

Baby was born a bit early and was unwell and spent a few days in NICU. After I gave birth his parents visited the next day, and then a few days later. We went home when baby was 4 days old. We had a text request to see baby again that weekend, we said no as we wanted time alone, baby is now 3 weeks old and they have seen him twice and we have received a further 3 text requests to see him. I was really upset because it's like they think they have a right or claim over my child, there have been more requests to see him in the last 3 weeks then we see them in a year. It really panics me. I don't want to start with any set routine, or any obligations etc. So, last night I was upset, my mum got involved, I explained how I was still hurt by lack of introduction, how it annoys me we barely see them and now there is constant request to see us, then I went on to say how I don't want to keep passing my baby around to people just because others think I 'should'. I also went onto say how I am worried about registering the baby, because once dad is on the birth certificate (nothing against baby's dad) that then the baby is officially linked to the other family. My mum told me I was abnormal and obviously depressed, I'm not at all. But I have lived in a very controlling environment, where I have constantly been told what I 'should' do, lived with a mother whose mood swings are extreme, been threatened to be kicked out more times then I can remember, including when I first started dating baby's dad. I have never moved out even though I am in my late 20's. I have lived in a very unpredictable environment for years with very controlling behaviour.

Then there is my family, we are living with my mum at the minute. They already have grandchildren who live away who they have seen every few weeks since birth, but I have seen years of arguments and my sibling being told what is right or wrong in terms of the children etc.

I have passed this baby to every visitor when really I don't want to. Last week my cousin came to visit. My aunt, uncle and cousin often just turn up without letting us know. Something again I find hard. I have just had a baby but it isn't my house, so anyone can just turn up and I just have to deal with it. I was sitting on the opposite sofa with the baby, my mum asked my cousin to sit next to me so she could see the baby, she said 'I can see It from here', my mum then asked me to move next to my cousin so she could take a photo, my cousin refused to have a photo taken. My cousin, aunt, uncle and parents went outside. My mum then told my cousin was upset. I spoke to my cousin and she said it was because her sister now wasn't letting her see her niece that weekend. I didn't think anything else of it. The next day I got up and my mum was glaring at me, being moody, off it etc. I asked what was wrong. I was told how my cousin was upset because I hadn't let her hold the baby. I said she wouldn't even sit next to us. My mum said that they could all tell by my face that I didn't want her to hold the baby. This resulted in me saying not to tell me what I was thinking.

My mum then went on to say that I 'should' have walked into the room and just handed over the baby to my cousin straight way. That resulted in me saying not to tell me what I should be doing with my own child etc. My mums mood over this carried on for several days, including text messages telling me to leave home etc.

My mum is extremely controlling, always telling people what they 'should' do. I found the fact that she was shouting at me, and sobbing her hear out because my cousin didn't hold the baby quite frightening and made me feel even more protective over him.

It worries me that now the baby is born his family are now expecting to see us more and continually asking to see us. Last night I ended up in tears. I don't want to have any set routine, obligations, expectations in terms of grandparents seeing the baby. I find it upsetting that we only saw the a handful of times before the baby was born and now they will push for that to increase.

I find it hard at home because I have spent years listening to my mum going on about the other grandchildren and seeing what state of upset she gets in about them, it is extreme, the awful texts that get sent about them and that's when they live over an hour away. Their family are going through a divorce and now my mum is going on about grandparents rights, and going to court to get access. The whole thing makes me panic about my child and feel very protective.

There have been so many visitors and I have handed him over to every one. Then there are fiancés parents now constantly requesting to see us. I just want us to be left alone. My mum does a lot of child care for her other grandchildren, I don't want to get into this, I think it makes boundaries very difficult.

I just don't know what to do really.

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BoozyBear · 26/07/2013 16:28

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pommedechocolat · 26/07/2013 16:29

I still think paternity leave is time for everyone to fuck off a little and give new parents some space. People that dont understand this and dont hand back 3 day old screaming babies back to their mums (MIL im looking at you) need it pointed out very firmly.

Here it is confused as they are living at her mothers but she still has the right to say 'come back in a few weeks'.

Relations may be better for it in the long term.

HaroldLloyd · 26/07/2013 16:32

I can understand you wanting a break right now but in the future it's important to remember he isn't just your son he's a lot of different things to different people and a person in his own right.

My MIL grinds my gears and has been quite rude to me on occasion but I would never stop a visit as DS loves to see her, and children benefit tremendously from a good grandparent relationship.

It sounds like your own mum who is a real issue.

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks · 26/07/2013 16:34

I would hazard a guess that the "bombarding" (as you call it ) would stop if you made the first move every time. I.E - text them and say "we are free on xx date, would you like to go for a picnic at the park" or "Would xxx date be any good for us to come round?"
That way you can have the control you want, and I am guessing their requests will dry up a bit (although IMO there haven't been too many) as they will have clear dates they can see him.
As it stands you are leaving them hanging as to when they can see their grandson, and that must be a bit frustrating for them.
It must also be hard for them to know your mum has unlimited visiting (given you live with her) and yet you're not willing to organise a few hours for them.
Once a fortnight seems a reasonable amount for them to see their grandson.

Morgause · 26/07/2013 16:34

Sorry to say this but you sound as controlling as you say your mother is.

He is your and your DP's baby and of course you value your time with him but he has a wider family who want to love him, and support you, why would you deny him that? Your issues with your mother are clouding your potential relationship with your in laws and the rest of your family.

What does your DP really think? Ask him if he thinks you are controlling.

IfNotNowThenWhen · 26/07/2013 16:34

Why can't you move out? You have a job, fiance has a job.
Get onto rightmove and find a little flat to rent. It doesn't have to be anything grand. I had my baby in a tiny one bed flat. It was fine.
Problem solved.
If your mother is such a nightmare I really can't imagine why you have been living with her until your late twenties!

wispawoman · 26/07/2013 16:36

Agree that newbie is trying to exert some control, and the only people she can have that over seem to be her PILs. It does sound more than the usual hormonal stuff though. I have sons and from reading these sorts of threads on Mumsnet have begun to dread how potential DILs may react to what most people would see as very unpushy but loving parents having the nerve to want to have regular contact with their son and grandchildren. Babies are not possessions and you should not use them as ammunition in your battles with relations! Hopefully you will realise how lovely it is to share how amazing your child is with the rest of the world. I suppose next thing will be posters moaning that the grandparents aren't sufficiently interested!

Reastie · 26/07/2013 16:37

Haven't read the whole thread OP but wanted to say alot of what you say I found with my ILs too. I found it depressing and stressful to think this would go on for the next 18 years! What I can say is it has got better over time and alot of it was me being in an overwhelmed place having just had a baby and needing my own space. I had PND and I found my PIL aggravated it. Take care of yourself, your DH and your new baby and let everyone else work around you and what you feel is best, please don't try to please everyone all the time as it won't work and you'll end out miserable and exhausted.

MadBusLady · 26/07/2013 16:38

Your mother has issues but you don't?

Highly unlikely, sorry.

You are being very unreasonable to equate your in-laws behaviour with your own family's behaviour. It doesn't sound anything like as bad. It just doesn't. Please listen to us.

Reastie · 26/07/2013 16:40

Re: the controlling things. I am a control freak type of person and I think that's one reason I found it so difficult to have PIL trying to butt in on my plans/manipulate things to what they wanted. It really made my life truly miserable for the first year of DDs life and took up so much negative energy in me. I really blew everything out of control and couldn't help it. That really doesn't help you I know, but I guess you're not alone.

LucilleBluth · 26/07/2013 16:45

Yes but Reastie her mil isn't doing any of those things.

doingthesplitz · 26/07/2013 16:45

I think you're being a bit unfair on your in laws. They've seen the baby about four times in three weeks, if I read your post correctly, and would now like another visit. It's not really excessive and I think it's unfair to equate their behaviour with other issues with your own family.

LucilleBluth · 26/07/2013 16:47

I honestly think that the OP is being so spectacularly unreasonable that she needs to speak to a professional.

squeakytoy · 26/07/2013 16:48

OP, I have read all your posts now on this thread, and it is you that comes across as controlling, unreasonable, and to be frank, quite unkind.

You are doing your relationship with your child no favours by keeping him from having a relationship with his grandparents.

doingthesplitz · 26/07/2013 16:49

And I agree that you need to remember the baby is part of a wider family circle. He's not a possession that 'belongs' to you and DF and it is perfectly understandable that other close relatives are interested in him and want to hold him.

HaroldLloyd · 26/07/2013 16:51

I hope you can move out and get some space soon - try not to worry about visitation think about the here & now.

It's natural to get a lot if visitors straight after you bring the baby home, and you have no control as your mum is asking them. This isn't the ILs fault though.

Your DS will benefit greatly from having loving grandparents. Ok you don't have to use them for child care but consider letting them visit regularly when you settle in to a new home.

You don't need to make long term decisions right now when you are feeling crowded at your mums. Just plan the next visit and take it one at a time.

newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 17:05

I don't have PND, I just have had no time for myself put for just us since giving birth. It was my fiancé who said no to his parents request for a visit, not me and that was because be said he was feeling overwhelmed and wanted time alone. He then had two further requests in the week to see baby despite what he has said. I haven't had any time to just be alone with my baby without people trying to get further time with us or telling us what we should be doing. My fiancé doesn't want regular visits. In fact I suggested this weekend as he has one day off and actually he wants one time with his child as he has been back at work.y concerns are that I just don't want to get into any set pattern of, ooh we see them every second Sunday etc. so I want boundaries early on. My fiancé says he has felt overwhned over the last few weeks and also just wants time alone. He doesn't want to see his family yet. I got upset last night because despite my fiancé saying he didn't want visits yet, this was ignored with 2 further requests which to me is a bit pushy and disrespectful.

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Sallystyle · 26/07/2013 17:15

I am with Curlew, you are being really mean with your in-laws.

The only reason you have given for not wanting to see her more is.. wait, you haven't even given a reason have you? you just don't want to? you want to get on with your life? how does your in-laws coming round a bit more stop you getting on with your life?

Does your partner really feel the same as you? have you stopped to think that now he is a father he may actually want to see his parents more?

You are being mean with no apparent reason for it. It's almost like you are punishing them for the sins of your mother, who in fact is the controlling one.

I really hope none of my daughter/son in-laws treat me this way for no reason.

diddl · 26/07/2013 17:16

Well then he just needs to keep saying no & he'll let them know.

Of course, it's not their fault that you are getting no alone time.

It does seem that they are bearing the repercussions of you living with your mum.

And of course, if she had boundaries, maybe you wouldn't be overwhelmed with visitors of her choosing!

ExBrightonBell · 26/07/2013 17:17

Requests might be a bit pushy, but you can say no! You can't control them and make them do exactly as you want, but you can say no thank you, how about next week/fortnight etc. if they keep texting just repeat, no sorry we need some family time, and we can see you next week/fortnight etc. I don't understand why that bothers you so much.

And no one can force you into a pattern of visits that you don't want. Just say no, that weekend isn't convenient for a visit.

Sallystyle · 26/07/2013 17:18

BTW it is perfectly reasonable to want time on your own right now, that is fine. It is not fine to to stop them coming round more just because you don't want them to.

4 times a year is nothing, of course they want to see their grandchild and you have already decided that you won't allow that to happen.

Almostfifty · 26/07/2013 17:18

Please re-read the thread.

Almost everyone feels that your in-laws deserve more time with you all than you've given them.

I'll be that MIL one day, as I don't have any daughters. I just hope I get the chance to spend as much time with my grandchildren as their maternal grandmother will.

It's only fair to give them some time with you as well.

Morgause · 26/07/2013 17:24

Wanting to see a grandchild is pushy and disrespectful?

In 25 years when your DS makes you a grandmother I hope his partner is a kinder person than you and your DP are.

Mabelface · 26/07/2013 17:27

Okay, one thing that you don't seem to want to address is you and your partner moving out. Why is that?

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 26/07/2013 17:36

I don't understand that either, or why the plan is for the DP to cut hours and presumably wages by dropping to 4 days and taking unpaid parental leave.

Surely the best way to get more time as a family is to earn as much money as quickly as possible and move out?