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Grandparents

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newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 10:56

I am a new mummy. Whilst pregnant my fiancés mother introduced him to her colleague as 'this is my son', then pointed at my bump and said 'this is my grandson' and failed to even acknowledge my existence, I was really upset but left it. They live about 45 minutes away and we see them about 4-5 times per year but probably get a monthly invite to see them.

Baby was born a bit early and was unwell and spent a few days in NICU. After I gave birth his parents visited the next day, and then a few days later. We went home when baby was 4 days old. We had a text request to see baby again that weekend, we said no as we wanted time alone, baby is now 3 weeks old and they have seen him twice and we have received a further 3 text requests to see him. I was really upset because it's like they think they have a right or claim over my child, there have been more requests to see him in the last 3 weeks then we see them in a year. It really panics me. I don't want to start with any set routine, or any obligations etc. So, last night I was upset, my mum got involved, I explained how I was still hurt by lack of introduction, how it annoys me we barely see them and now there is constant request to see us, then I went on to say how I don't want to keep passing my baby around to people just because others think I 'should'. I also went onto say how I am worried about registering the baby, because once dad is on the birth certificate (nothing against baby's dad) that then the baby is officially linked to the other family. My mum told me I was abnormal and obviously depressed, I'm not at all. But I have lived in a very controlling environment, where I have constantly been told what I 'should' do, lived with a mother whose mood swings are extreme, been threatened to be kicked out more times then I can remember, including when I first started dating baby's dad. I have never moved out even though I am in my late 20's. I have lived in a very unpredictable environment for years with very controlling behaviour.

Then there is my family, we are living with my mum at the minute. They already have grandchildren who live away who they have seen every few weeks since birth, but I have seen years of arguments and my sibling being told what is right or wrong in terms of the children etc.

I have passed this baby to every visitor when really I don't want to. Last week my cousin came to visit. My aunt, uncle and cousin often just turn up without letting us know. Something again I find hard. I have just had a baby but it isn't my house, so anyone can just turn up and I just have to deal with it. I was sitting on the opposite sofa with the baby, my mum asked my cousin to sit next to me so she could see the baby, she said 'I can see It from here', my mum then asked me to move next to my cousin so she could take a photo, my cousin refused to have a photo taken. My cousin, aunt, uncle and parents went outside. My mum then told my cousin was upset. I spoke to my cousin and she said it was because her sister now wasn't letting her see her niece that weekend. I didn't think anything else of it. The next day I got up and my mum was glaring at me, being moody, off it etc. I asked what was wrong. I was told how my cousin was upset because I hadn't let her hold the baby. I said she wouldn't even sit next to us. My mum said that they could all tell by my face that I didn't want her to hold the baby. This resulted in me saying not to tell me what I was thinking.

My mum then went on to say that I 'should' have walked into the room and just handed over the baby to my cousin straight way. That resulted in me saying not to tell me what I should be doing with my own child etc. My mums mood over this carried on for several days, including text messages telling me to leave home etc.

My mum is extremely controlling, always telling people what they 'should' do. I found the fact that she was shouting at me, and sobbing her hear out because my cousin didn't hold the baby quite frightening and made me feel even more protective over him.

It worries me that now the baby is born his family are now expecting to see us more and continually asking to see us. Last night I ended up in tears. I don't want to have any set routine, obligations, expectations in terms of grandparents seeing the baby. I find it upsetting that we only saw the a handful of times before the baby was born and now they will push for that to increase.

I find it hard at home because I have spent years listening to my mum going on about the other grandchildren and seeing what state of upset she gets in about them, it is extreme, the awful texts that get sent about them and that's when they live over an hour away. Their family are going through a divorce and now my mum is going on about grandparents rights, and going to court to get access. The whole thing makes me panic about my child and feel very protective.

There have been so many visitors and I have handed him over to every one. Then there are fiancés parents now constantly requesting to see us. I just want us to be left alone. My mum does a lot of child care for her other grandchildren, I don't want to get into this, I think it makes boundaries very difficult.

I just don't know what to do really.

OP posts:
crashdoll · 26/07/2013 17:48

I appreciate you are having a hard time but YABVU and tbh, you're not really listening to anything anyone tells you, so not sure why you posted. Confused

Parker231 · 26/07/2013 17:55

I haven't had time to read all the posts but is there any reason why you don't want your DS to have a relationship with his grandparents ? If they live local I think you are very lucky. When are you moving to your own home - this will help you develop a better and probably calmer routine.

mynewpassion · 26/07/2013 18:06

Move out asap!

crunchbag · 26/07/2013 18:14

Sorry but YABU
I can fully understand you want time alone with your baby, of course you do but you are taking issue with the wrong grandparents.
You need to resolve the privacy issue with your mother and not 'punish' DP's parents by not allowing them to visit DS.

4 times a year is nothing, both sets of our grandparents live hundreds of miles away and our DC see them more than that.

Tryharder · 26/07/2013 18:23

I am really trying to be sympathetic to you and I truly understand that having a newborn baby is very difficult and often a shock to the system which can't be helped by your housing worries.

BUT.. your baby is not a possession. His grandparents deserve to have a relationship with him and vice versa. You should be happy they want to know him; a lot of grandparents couldn't give a shiny shit about their grandchildren.

You come across as very, very controlling, almost as if you are enjoying the power of having these people asking to see your baby and you are able to say no or yes at a whim. I also thought it was odd that you hardly mention your DP. What does he have to say about all this?

sugarandspite · 26/07/2013 18:31

OP, surely you've seen threads like this before?

OP: Am I being unreasonable?

Everyone: yes (but generally said as gently and kindly as possible in this case)

OP: No! I'm not being unreasonable

Etc.

Now when you read those threads, surely you thought something along the lines of blimey, they are being unreasonable. How the jiminy do they not see that when its perfectly clear to everyone else?

So in your case, with everyone telling you YABU, does it give you any teeny tiny pause for thought? Honestly?

PastaBeeandCheese · 26/07/2013 19:03

I agree YABU towards your in laws. I agree with all the OPs who have said you need to think about how you'd feel if your son limited you to 4 visits a year with his children. Personally I'd be heartbroken.

In the nicest possible way it isn't about you. It's about your DS growing up in a loving family with grandparents who love him.

No one will ever love your DS like you do but you're not the only person who loves him. Let them get to know him and spoil him rotten. I'm sure that's what you'd do in their position. Not every parent is like your mum......

Please OP, if you could see how much my MIL and DD love each other you'd change your mind. My MIL doesn't provide childcare or anything like that and she doesn't expect any level of control.

ChampionRunner · 26/07/2013 19:28

I think you sound totally normal and not depressed at all. If anything other people being how they are (expecting they have the right to see your baby, hold it all the time etc.) could lead to pnd. You need time to bond and have the baby to yourself. That is completely healthy. Try to stand up for yourself and not worry what others expect. I wish I had and if I have another baby I definitely will!

Spartacus101 · 26/07/2013 20:36

I had a bit of 'interesting' thinking after my firstborn. Hated anyone touching or holding her that wasn't me, felt like I'd been hit by a sledge hammer, just wanted everyone to go away etc. I had pnd.

I'm not saying you do, however if you look at your thinking it's not entirely logical.

You want/need to get away from your family and living with them, but you're concentrating your ire on your Partner's family. This isn't logical.

It is early days, congratulations by the way :) , and your feelings will settle down, best not to fall out with your inlaws over this when you may feel very differently in a few months.

The idea of a few nights away at a travel lodge/hotel/cottage sounds great and would prob do you the world of good. Good luck :)

EatYourCrusts · 26/07/2013 21:02

I too read your posts and believe I can recognise the PND there, even if you are a cheerful person, what you are writing is not quite rational, and I mean that kindly.

You aren't being fair to your fiance's parents. They want to see your baby because they are his family too. Family is important.

I think you will feel much better once you live by yourselves as a unit. I would entirely prioritise that. Best of luck.

HaveTeaWillSurvive · 26/07/2013 21:03

I'm feeling a bit sorry for the in-laws to be honest. Little babies change so much in the first couple of weeks they're probably desperate to see your PFB.

Totally is your call on getting some quiet quality time to establish your family, and in fact we did - PIL were given half hour slots a couple of times a week where they'd appear with food, have a quick cuddle then leave happy enough so long as they knew when they'd see DS next. However, you do sound particularly anxious - ie the counting exact number of times other people have held your baby - and seem to be projecting your family issues on your in laws. Have they been pushy or arsey in the past, excluding the comment (which sounds like GP excitement to me) or is this solely based on your family experience. We hardly ever saw IL pre baby and now I see them a few times a week and would not be without them, I set boundaries and they respect me and DP as the parents. My DS adores his gran - please don't deny the relationship, you're the mum regardless of how often the IL see baby.

Nanny0gg · 26/07/2013 21:19

You don't want to improve the relationship between you and your fiancé's parents then? Because this could be the perfect opportunity, especially as you hold all the cards (your DC).

I have to say, if your fiancé was my son, I would be beyond hurt at the way the two of you were treating me. And you haven't really given any further explanation of why it's deserved.

If you want to go away and live in a little bubble of three then do so. But you may regret that in years to come when it would be nice for your children to have extended family.

And think on - how will you feel in 20-odd years' time when your DiL is starting a thread like this on Mumsnet?

Whereisegg · 28/07/2013 17:33

Don't have time to read all advice ATM but, if she was texting me to say I couldn't live there anymore I would be sitting in my local council with my bags and my baby.

tittytittyhanghang · 28/07/2013 17:58

YABU and tbh are coming across as controlling selfish and mean towards your pil. How dare they want a relationship with your baby.

As a mother to 2 sons i pray to god they don't end up with someone like you.

MiaowTheCat · 28/07/2013 18:25

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curlew · 28/07/2013 18:56

"However I'm not prepared to take really shitty behaviour from her anymore and I'd find more than a visit a week or so now the baby's home - really fucking suffocating, "

Had you missed that the OP was suggesting 4 visits a year? Or were you too busy accusing people of hysteria?

Trazzletoes · 28/07/2013 19:46

It sounds to me as if the PILs keep asking because they keep being told no. If they were given a date, perhaps they would stop asking?

I think you're being really rude to the ILs as well. I would be gutted if either of my DCs or their partners reacted like you have.

Perhaps you need time to yourself right now, but also perhaps you may want to consider unclenching a little in a few months time and encouraging a relationship between your DS and his family.

curlew · 28/07/2013 19:52

Trazzle- they don't "keep asking"! 3 times in 3 weeks- which is, apparently "bombarding" them with texts.......

Alisvolatpropiis · 28/07/2013 20:23

Sorry OP but you are being stunningly unreasonable re your in laws.

You're worried about registering the baby because it "links" them to you but are planning on actually marrying their son? Hmm

Your current living situation is a far bigger problem here. Your family are the ones visiting and being all over your baby,not giving you space. I feel ridiculous even typing that it is so glaringly obvious.

Trazzletoes · 28/07/2013 20:26

curlew sorry, I didn't express myself well! I'm of the same opinion as you!!! I wouldn't class that as bombarding. In fact, I think it's nice that they are so keen to have a relationship with their DGS despite what appears to have been a somewhat rocky start with the OP.

I was simply suggesting (or trying to!) that if she wants them to stop texting, it might be wise to give them a date when they can see them all so they at least know where they stand.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 20:32

Op you sound a bit unhinged with your trenchant (and slightly robotic) mantra about the inlaws. I hope that some space from your own parents and a subsidence of hormones or whatever the fuck is going on with you will gain you some perspective.

Your living situation sounds intolerable and I am sure that this is making you slightly deranged and desperate for some freedom. Your inlaws have done absolutely nothing wrong and you are being spectacularly short sighted about this - from several perspectives - the fact that they deserve more contact, that they may actually be allies and the fact that your pfb will have a wife one day and you may regret your treatment of your mil. Poor mils are getting a hell of a time on here lately.

DuelingFanjo · 28/07/2013 20:39

Good post miaowthecat.

The way these threads always descend into 'you'd better hope you don't have sons because some evil DIL is going to make sure you get yours' type shit really pisses me off.

Cuddlydragon · 28/07/2013 20:41

OP, as others have suggested, I think you might find a chat with your health visitor helpful. Maybe she could point you in the right direction to solve your housing problem. You definitely need your own place. It sounds very hard for you living with your mum. As someone who isn't all that close to her own inlaws, I do think your perceptions of their requests to visit are way off base, and very very influenced by your own thoughts about control. I don't think their requests to see the baby are excessive, frequent, rude or insensitive. I know you don't think youre depressed and I hope you aren't but I do think you could do with support. Boundaries don't need to be rigid if you're strong. I hope in time to come your son doesn't think you're controlling.

Partridge · 28/07/2013 20:46

But to be fair duelling, if some of the DIL on here are representative then that is a likely scenario. There are some nice ones but, depressingly,so many others who can't wait to spew bile about their mil and be totally unreasonable and inequitable about mil and dm.

It's very Hmm for people like me who do have sons that they adore.

curlew · 28/07/2013 20:50

"The way these threads always descend into 'you'd better hope you don't have sons because some evil DIL is going to make sure you get yours' type shit really pisses me off"
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I do thi k only a couple of people have said that......