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newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 10:56

I am a new mummy. Whilst pregnant my fiancés mother introduced him to her colleague as 'this is my son', then pointed at my bump and said 'this is my grandson' and failed to even acknowledge my existence, I was really upset but left it. They live about 45 minutes away and we see them about 4-5 times per year but probably get a monthly invite to see them.

Baby was born a bit early and was unwell and spent a few days in NICU. After I gave birth his parents visited the next day, and then a few days later. We went home when baby was 4 days old. We had a text request to see baby again that weekend, we said no as we wanted time alone, baby is now 3 weeks old and they have seen him twice and we have received a further 3 text requests to see him. I was really upset because it's like they think they have a right or claim over my child, there have been more requests to see him in the last 3 weeks then we see them in a year. It really panics me. I don't want to start with any set routine, or any obligations etc. So, last night I was upset, my mum got involved, I explained how I was still hurt by lack of introduction, how it annoys me we barely see them and now there is constant request to see us, then I went on to say how I don't want to keep passing my baby around to people just because others think I 'should'. I also went onto say how I am worried about registering the baby, because once dad is on the birth certificate (nothing against baby's dad) that then the baby is officially linked to the other family. My mum told me I was abnormal and obviously depressed, I'm not at all. But I have lived in a very controlling environment, where I have constantly been told what I 'should' do, lived with a mother whose mood swings are extreme, been threatened to be kicked out more times then I can remember, including when I first started dating baby's dad. I have never moved out even though I am in my late 20's. I have lived in a very unpredictable environment for years with very controlling behaviour.

Then there is my family, we are living with my mum at the minute. They already have grandchildren who live away who they have seen every few weeks since birth, but I have seen years of arguments and my sibling being told what is right or wrong in terms of the children etc.

I have passed this baby to every visitor when really I don't want to. Last week my cousin came to visit. My aunt, uncle and cousin often just turn up without letting us know. Something again I find hard. I have just had a baby but it isn't my house, so anyone can just turn up and I just have to deal with it. I was sitting on the opposite sofa with the baby, my mum asked my cousin to sit next to me so she could see the baby, she said 'I can see It from here', my mum then asked me to move next to my cousin so she could take a photo, my cousin refused to have a photo taken. My cousin, aunt, uncle and parents went outside. My mum then told my cousin was upset. I spoke to my cousin and she said it was because her sister now wasn't letting her see her niece that weekend. I didn't think anything else of it. The next day I got up and my mum was glaring at me, being moody, off it etc. I asked what was wrong. I was told how my cousin was upset because I hadn't let her hold the baby. I said she wouldn't even sit next to us. My mum said that they could all tell by my face that I didn't want her to hold the baby. This resulted in me saying not to tell me what I was thinking.

My mum then went on to say that I 'should' have walked into the room and just handed over the baby to my cousin straight way. That resulted in me saying not to tell me what I should be doing with my own child etc. My mums mood over this carried on for several days, including text messages telling me to leave home etc.

My mum is extremely controlling, always telling people what they 'should' do. I found the fact that she was shouting at me, and sobbing her hear out because my cousin didn't hold the baby quite frightening and made me feel even more protective over him.

It worries me that now the baby is born his family are now expecting to see us more and continually asking to see us. Last night I ended up in tears. I don't want to have any set routine, obligations, expectations in terms of grandparents seeing the baby. I find it upsetting that we only saw the a handful of times before the baby was born and now they will push for that to increase.

I find it hard at home because I have spent years listening to my mum going on about the other grandchildren and seeing what state of upset she gets in about them, it is extreme, the awful texts that get sent about them and that's when they live over an hour away. Their family are going through a divorce and now my mum is going on about grandparents rights, and going to court to get access. The whole thing makes me panic about my child and feel very protective.

There have been so many visitors and I have handed him over to every one. Then there are fiancés parents now constantly requesting to see us. I just want us to be left alone. My mum does a lot of child care for her other grandchildren, I don't want to get into this, I think it makes boundaries very difficult.

I just don't know what to do really.

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newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 15:38

I do just want space. Both granparents saw him the day after he was born in hospital, after id had a difficult and emergency delivery and he was in NICU. Then they saw him again in hospital at 4 days old. We came home the We came home that night, his mum text to ask when they could visit that weekend (not if) Fiance replied saying he wanted time alone on his paternity leave and since then there have been two further requests to see him by text despite what fiance had said which is putting me off. The last one was "his paternal grandparents would like to see him".

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Rainbowinthesky · 26/07/2013 15:39

You are underestimating the massive value your inlaws can add to your baby's life. My two dc are greatly loved by my mother and receive a huge amount of pleasure and love from the relationship. She isn't perfect but no one is. Please don't cut them out of your child's life.

Rainbowinthesky · 26/07/2013 15:39

The requests are not at all unreasonable.

pommedechocolat · 26/07/2013 15:41

But their is no bond anyone other than a parent (or full time carer) can form with a newborn ffs! They really dont start their relationship with their grandson here and time with them is time not in its parents arms for this little tiny newborn.

curlew · 26/07/2013 15:41

They have asked 3 times in 3 weeks if they can see their new grandson again. 3 times!!!!!!!!!

JacqueslePeacock · 26/07/2013 15:41

I really do think a lot of your anger is misplaced. I don't know what your DP's family is like, and for all I know they may be awful and pushy, but it's pretty normal for grandparents to increase frequency of visits when grandchildren arrive. I think the real problem is your own family, and you need to get some space away from them fast. When you have done that, you will not feel so pressured and harassed, and then your in-laws' requests might not feel so unreasonable to you. I think they are such a pain to you now because they are the final straw breaking the camel's back, on top of all the issues with your own family. Concentrate your energies first of all on getting away from your mother and you might find everything feels a lot better and you can handle DP's parents with tolerance.

JacqueslePeacock · 26/07/2013 15:43

Yes, and there will be plenty of time for your baby to bond with grandparents later on. It isn't necessary to spend a lot of time together now if it's making you upset. I think a calm, functioning mum is a lot more important to a tiny baby than an immediate close relationship with GPs.

ExBrightonBell · 26/07/2013 15:44

I don't think that they are making an unusual amount of requests. Yes, they should have given you space when asked, but still they are not harassing you with demands.

I had a difficult delivery and my baby was in SCBU. Both sets of grandparents visited the next day and again within a week. This seemed completely normal and reasonable to me.

I wonder why it bothers you so much when they have texted to ask to see their grandchild? My rely to the text about "his paternal grandparents would like to see him" would be something along the lines of "of course, how about ? We would like a few days first to settle into being a family together".

ExBrightonBell · 26/07/2013 15:46

... that was supposed to say "how about {name a date next week}?" rather than just a ?.

curlew · 26/07/2013 15:46

I just can't get over 3 texts in 3 weeks being described as "bombarding". And that loving new grandparents who don't appear to have done anything wrong are expected to be happy with a glimpse of a poorly baby in NiCU then another glimpse at 4 days and then not even a suggestion of a date when they might see him again.

newbiemum13 · 26/07/2013 15:50

The thing I can't get over is that now people think they have a right and expectation to see him. A claim over my child. I don't want that.

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PenelopePitstops · 26/07/2013 15:53

I feel for you, really I do.

You are being unreasonable about their requests. I don't think you are reading the majority or responses correctly. It is a good thing for them to be involved in your child's life and it's important for your fiance.

Put the shoe on the other foot and imagine you were living with his parents, would your parents then be unreasonable to ask to see your son once a week?

Yes you need space, no that is Not the inlaws fault.

Could you compromise and meet somewhere neutral? This would get you out of the house and give you some much needed space.

curlew · 26/07/2013 15:53

If they thought they had a right they'd be on your doorstep.

They just want to see him. He's their grandchild!!! They want see him, see how he's changing and growing, give him presents, coo over him, take a picture to coo over later.........Can't you see how unkind you are being?

ExBrightonBell · 26/07/2013 15:54

You don't know they think that. If they really did think they had a right to see him they wouldn't text to ask when they could come, they would arrive unannounced and barge their way in!

They would like to see their grandchild. That isn't the same as having a right or an expectation that they will see him. Did it not occur to you before you decided to have a child that the child would have grandparents? And that it is normal for grandparents to be interested in their grandchildren?

PumpkinPositive · 26/07/2013 15:54

The thing I can't get over is that now people think they have a right and expectation to see him. A claim over my child. I don't want that.

Afraid you're going to have to get used to it. The health visitor will be around shortly.

PenelopePitstops · 26/07/2013 15:55

They expect to see him because he is their grand child. Your parents see him ALL the time so they are also feeling left out.

I recommend you see a doctor about your thoughts and feelings because they show signs of pnd.

Mabelface · 26/07/2013 15:57

He's also your partner's child, love, and he does have a say too. I understand that you're feeling overwhelmed at the moment, but I agree that your anger is misplaced. They are not going to harm him, they will love him and grow a relationship with him that will be a GOOD thing. Think on this - 5 years down the line, you and your partner would love a weekend away together without any children (this will happen, I promise you), and your child has a good relationship with the inlaws, then you will be happy to leave him there in the knowledge that he's going to have a brilliant time, and you can relax knowing that he's safe and well. They are keeping their distance from you, they're asking to see rather than just turning up and demanding. Take a little step back and read the responses on here.

ExBrightonBell · 26/07/2013 15:59

It might help to remember that you are the one that is in control of your life, and your baby's life. No one has a claim over your child (apart from your DP). You can say yes or no to the requests from grandparents and so-on, as you see fit. You can decide how long you see people for, where and how.

meganorks · 26/07/2013 16:00

Grandparents naturally want to see more of you now you have a grandchild. Just because they have made lots of requests now in the first few weeks doesn't mean they will keep up that level of requests. Try not to panic.
If you keep just saying no then you leave no option but for then to keep asking as they want to see him. But if you say 'sorry but we have been a bit overwhelmed with visitors and just want some time alone. But we could meet....(eg some time a week/fortnight later) That way you control when you drr them and they stop asking and stressing you out.
Re your own mum - sounds like you need to move out ASAP

pommedechocolat · 26/07/2013 16:00

But, madlizzy that has little to do with your newborn baby you dont want to let go of and you want to be left alone with. That can still (and probably will) happen.

Mabelface · 26/07/2013 16:02

Pomme, yes, but what I'm trying to get over is that the inlaws aren't pushing to be there every minute of every day, they just want to visit here and there, and the OP has lots and lots of time with the baby, plus more if she and her DP get their own place, which to me is the major problem here at the moment, with the anger directed at the inlaws rather than the maternal grandmother.

curlew · 26/07/2013 16:10

3 requests. In 3 weeks.

faceboo · 26/07/2013 16:11

In terms of your in laws, I had a similar situation where we didn't see MIL very often at all before the DC were born. In fact, she had not once come to our house until we had a baby - we always visited her. Now, she comes to our house and we see her much more often and for longer periods of time.

The change was difficult to adapt to but it is normal for grandparents to want to see their grandchildren and spend time with them.

The lack of an introduction is wrong and its something my MIL does all the time so I do sympathise. You should stand up for yourself a little though and say "And I'm XXX, she always forgets that i'm the one actually having the baby! Ha ha!"

I do this with MIL all the time and as you can imagine, we don't have a great relationship but at least she knows that if she treats me badly I will not ignore it.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 26/07/2013 16:11

I can't believe how unreasonable you are being.

I also can't believe that you are insisting that you have no issues, no sign of even a sniff of PND, no nothing. Your issues are screaming out here - your mother is controlling, and you are showing all the signs of being exactly the same. Which is not necessarily your fault, but you need to recognise it and deal with it.

The 'his paternal parents would like to see him' is clearly pointing out that his maternal grandparents are seeing him on a daily basis. It is hardly fair.
Also, why shouldn't they text him - he is their son. Why does it have to be through you, so that you can control things?

WeleaseWodger · 26/07/2013 16:15

You have a son, who one day may have a child with his partner. Wouldn't you be excited to see your new grandchild? Try to put yourself in your MILs shoes, because one day you will be that MIL. To complicate things, you aren't alone - the other grandparents have 24/7 access to the grandchild. Your MIL must be feeling very pushed out and you seem to be taking a lot of your family's frustrations out on her. Maybe because you feel you can better control that situation than your own family / mother? Not very fair on your MIL - she's not your mom and from what you write, she's not that pushy.