To ask if this sounds like negligence?

[GadaboutTheGreat]

DD (14 months) took a bit of a tumble at the childminders today, apparently she fell down the step onto the decking in the garden. Childminder couldn't reach her in time due to helping another mindee.
I got an accident form from the childminder & full explanation & apology, but DH is v unhappy and thinks it's either negligence or at the very least not child-friendly. I think that accidents happen, although of course was concerned when I saw her.
DD is fine now, just has a few scratches.

Would you take this further, ask for more safety measures etc?

Kids fall over, what kind of measures does he expect to be taken?

Of course it's not negligence.

Accidents happen, and she has dealt with it properly, your DD is fine. Children fall over, it is very unrealistic to think it won't ever happen at the CM's.

It sounds like one of those accidents that happen all the time with toddlers. It sounds like the childminder dealt with it well to me. Unless there are other things that concern you in relation to the childminder, or the safety of the house, I would do nothing in relation to this. Glad your DD is OK!

I'm sure it wasn't negligence, as you say accidents happen, and this is a one off. If anything similar happened again, or to another child, then I would start to get worried.

Childminder has gone through the full paperwork process and has apologies, and I should imagine she is also upset about the accident.

How is that negligent?

has she never fallen over at home?

It's absolutely not negligence

Has DD every fallen over in your DH's care? Is it because he is negligent or because your home is not child friendly?

I think you are being much more realistic.

Depends how it the step is, if it has harsh corners, and what injury your dd sustained.

I would probably think it was just one of those things, but I would expect some evidence of the CM thinking about how she could prevent it happening ain and make the area safer.

I agree with everyone else, it was an accident by the sound of it. Has she never fallen over in your care?

DD1 fell up some stone steps at 12 months old in the CM's care, and she had a nasty graze on her lip for some time. The CM was mortified, but I thought "accidents happen" and it was just as likely (if not more likely) to happen in my care. That was the only accident and DD1 was very happy there.

No it's not negligence IMO. It's a house it's not going to be free of small steps or other opportunities for bumps and grazes.

Does your H chase after ambulances too ?

fucking compensation culture < mumble, complain >

not negligent at all.

Toddlers fall over, it's what they do.

DD ended up in hospital requiring stitches under the care of her CM. CM broke down when I.collected DD, she had held it together long enough for me to turn up and then the shock hit home and she sobbed.

I was angry and upset but had nowhere to direct the feelings as it was an accident. I imagine your P feels the same but he needs to understand that CM can't stop a toddler from falling.

Thanks, glad my reaction has been the same as these ones.
DH is often quite an over-reactor. I really don't know what he expects to happen though...put cotton wool round the step probably

Really?! Blimey.

No, it doesn't sound like negligence, it sounds like a typical toddler accident, they happen. Your CM followed the correct procedure, I'd tell your DH to chill his balls and calm down

So, if your DH thinks the CM is negligent and cannot take of his daughter properly I assume that he has taken leave from work and is at home with her then?

Because otherwise it's quite a bizarre thing to say.

He needs to spend more time looking after her on his own. First couple of tumbles in his care might give him a bit more perspective!

Hah! My DD had to be taken to the hospital in an ambulance after an accident at the CM's. Do I win?

My child fell. There was no way the CM could have stopped it happening. DD was fine. CM, not so much - I practically had to catch her when she came over all faint when DH and I arrived at the hospital. She can laugh about it now...

Children fall - it will happen.

I'm a SAHM (well, working from home today), DD is back home now.

Children fall over all the time. At my dds CM o e of the children fell off a chair and broke her arm - CM was mortified but no one's fault, just an unhappy accident. She has risk assessments on top of risk assessments and is way more careful than I am with my own, but some accidents just can't be prevented.

I do think though that a CM should have taken some steps to keep the stair area secured. How is it NOT negligent if stairs are accessible to babies?

Stairs up to the next floor must have a gate...why are deck steps different? How many steps are there OP?

This is the step from the back door down into the garden area. One step. Wooden floor.

It's a step, Neo, not a stair.