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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be a bit suspicious of DP's new friendship

588 replies

faulkernegger · 27/05/2013 23:22

I'll try to be concise - my DP is a music teacher and has developed a friendship with the mother of one of his pupils. He visits the house to teach, and often doesn't come home for ages. They live 5 mins away and the lesson is 30 mins, but it's been 2 hours later on occasions. There's always a reason, usually he was helping her with something, but she has a husband. I have met her and we've been to the house and they to ours, and it's all very friendly, BUT I have this niggling feeling. Even my DD (12) says her dad is obsessed with this woman ( completely unprompted by me - I've not voiced my thoughts). AIBU?

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Greenkit · 02/06/2013 18:22

OMG really!! Really.....

Why have you not stopped this 'friendship' its taking the piss, of you, of your family.He has no respect for the relationship you have built up.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 02/06/2013 18:41

Yes, exH used to talk about 'Liz' all the time. She was obviously a lovely woman, they had so much in common. Then, all of a sudden, he barely mentioned her. If he was on a night out, I'd ask who went. He'd list a few names and I'd say, 'What, no Liz?' Thinking...'Oh, yes I think Liz was there.'

Unfortunately in my situation this meant he'd started the physical affair. Sad

Cosydressinggown · 02/06/2013 18:46

Hi OP, glad to hear you're still in one piece and preparing to talk to him.

I'd be really interested to hear how he justifies the secret keeping. I just can't imagine a situation where I find out LATER that my husband has been running with another woman. If it was all innocent, why wasn't it like 'Hi hun, how was your day?' 'Yeah not bad, crap day at work and then I went for a run with Z'. Maybe my husband and I live too much in each other's pockets or something, but I always know what he's doing even when I'm not there, you know - more or less. If I found out later that he'd gone for (not one but) several runs with someone and not even casually mentioned it that evening, I'd wonder why.

Don't get sucked in by her friendship act though. If she is trying to throw you off scent about what's going on, or even if she just realises that what's happening is not nec. totally appropriate and feels a bit guilty, the first thing she'll do is be all friendly to you and mention contact with your DP as if it's the most casual thing in the world.

I honestly think you need some straight answers from him. Starting with: why did you not tell me when you went running with her? and adding 'why did you call her straight after I told you that the contact made me uncomfortable?' and a whole lot in between.

florascotia · 02/06/2013 18:50

As Alis perhaps implies, and I suggested earlier, dear OP, do please get someone experienced in all this sort of thing to talk things through with you.
Great and supportive though Mumsnet can be, we all only have a limited and amateur perspective. I have had friends in your situation. I have listened, of course, but have felt terribly aware that all I could do was empathise and sympathise, not offer any 'safe, reliable' advice...

Lovelygoldboots · 02/06/2013 18:54

I was like this op, we still all socialised but started to feel like an outsider in my own relationship. Her husband did not see the problem as made a point of seeing him and asking him. This woman will be enjoying the attention. It took a work colleague to make me realize what a mess we were in and she was married and had lots of male friends as did her husband. This other woman has crossed a line and your husband has met her there willingly. Time for you to make him realize.

Lovelygoldboots · 02/06/2013 18:57

Florascotia is right also, we can only offer our own perspective.

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Boomba · 02/06/2013 20:37

I dont understand at all why you would go to her house and have wine? Confused

did you not have a conversation with your DP about the Asparagus Tart situation, after you left their house??

Boomba · 02/06/2013 20:38

what is your relationship like with your DP other than this? Are you normally quite distant from each other?

HildaOgden · 02/06/2013 20:46

Take your head out of the sand.

You husband has,at the least,a major schoolboy crush on this woman.

Either he cops on and starts treating you with respect (and he certainly isn't right now),or this will end in tears.

And those tears will be yours and your children.

ProphetOfDoom · 02/06/2013 21:34

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Cosydressinggown · 02/06/2013 22:51

I hope you've managed to speak to him tonight OP. This behaviour needs to stop, NOW.

Brillig · 02/06/2013 22:55

OP, I genuinely hate to say this because you come across as a lovely pers

Brillig · 02/06/2013 22:59

Damn, bloody iPhone, sorry.... To resume.

You clearly are lovely and trying your best not to jump to conclusions but the more you tell us, the worse it gets.

After what you said to him, he still succeeds in getting you to go round there for a jolly social occasion? And, in front of you and her OH presumably, they slope off together??

Nope, this is so not on. I'm really sorry Sad

onefewernow · 02/06/2013 23:49

There is an easy way round this.

Face the fact, in yourself, that you want him to stop seeing her at all. Be honest, you do.

I would, too. ( I learned the hard way that I should have been more upfront in this situation ).

Then ask him.

His reaction and willingness to do what you want, or otherwise, will tell you all you need to know about who matters most to him now.

His reactions to date by the way suggest he knows he is out of line eg the strangled voice and hasty following you with the latest email , not to mention the new interest in passwords.,

garlicgrump · 03/06/2013 01:05

I think Dr Glass mentions the weird urge that many affair partners have, to get their public partner and affair partner in a room together. It'd already happened to me when I read it - and to my friends, and happened to me again later - and, you know what? You know. The social veneer constrains us to play nice, feeding our errant partner's delusions or fantasies, but we're on edge.

You weren't mistaken about the little kitchen visit, Faulk. What on earth were they supposed to have in common over an asparagus tart? Are they baking together now? Of course, there was one, because it provided cover should cover be needed. And it is appalling that he's told her a personal anecdote he'd never shared with you. She said, "Oh, tell them your New York story, Musicman!"? Who does she sound like? His girlfriend, perhaps? Somewhat proprietorial, anyway.

You can't carry on like this, surely? It tears you up. The core issue is not what they're up to. It is that he's taking effort, engagement, time and enthusiasm out of your relationship for the sake of another one. He is lying to you - taking away honesty and trust. You are unhappy; you've told him so, and why, and he immediately went to do the thing you mentioned. He is not demonstrating love, concern or respect for you.

I think you need to get your head very clear on what's changed in your relationship. I'm so sorry you're going through this. You do sound ace! It's horrid to find yourself feeling like an anxious teenager.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance · 03/06/2013 07:05

Very wise words from Garlic

Lovelygoldboots · 03/06/2013 07:30

I agree with garlicgrump. My experience is one time in my life where aibu would have really helped me. There is a whole bunch of people here saying that you are not because you are desperate to rationalize and normalize it all.

MissStrawberry · 03/06/2013 07:51

I hope you are okay, OP. I am sure you must feel like your life is running out of control but you can get it back.

Cosmosim · 03/06/2013 09:37

OP, you are telling us this story from your perspective. We should be all agreeing with you because we don't know the flip side. Nobody is agreeing with you. I've not been in your situation, so I'm not projecting anything. But I am panicking for you - how on earth can you allow your partner to humiliate you like this? What is this teaching your daughter?

Lavenderhoney · 03/06/2013 10:29

Just read all this. The stuff about the asparagus tart annoyed me- do they really think you are that stupid? Is her dh away a lot? Did you mention the extra curricular activities such as running and bike riding etc?

If they haven't done the deed yet, then no doubt they are kidding themselves and each other with " we are just friends, its ok, noting will happen, why can't we be friends? Oh, now we have to hide our friendship, they are pushing us together" etc etc

The NY story- they are spending time together somehow without your knowledge, either phone or in person. Where does she work? Is he calling her on his way to from work? Is the running really walking slowly chatting?

How is your dd? Does he still take her or does she refuse to go? He should stop the lessons and if I were you I would stop socialising as well. It won't go away and at least you won't have to watch your dh round her.

I used to know someone years ago who was having an open affair and no one figured it til they ran away together " come on Kevin, come and help me wash up, you know I fancy you with those rubber gloves on hahahha" only it was true.

Do you have her dh number? As next time he does his knight in shining armour act I would be tempted to call her dh and say " Brian has gone to help again! Can you possibly go as well, Brian is hopeless with bikes and your wife always calls him! "

MadAboutHotChoc · 03/06/2013 10:54

Reading this is like watching a car crash Sad

This friendship has all the hallmarks of an emotional affair (if not sexual) - including secrecy & shared confidences/stories as well as lying by omission, outright lies & denial.

He is too far gone in this fantasy fuelled affair fog and your ONLY option is to give him a short sharp shock making him realise that his stupid selfish behaviour will result in him losing you, his marriage, his home comforts and the respect of his family and friends.

MadAboutHotChoc · 03/06/2013 10:55

And believe me, I have been there before with DH - his close friendship with a woman turned into a full blown affair right under my nose.

TheBirdsFellDownToDingADong · 03/06/2013 11:42

The asparagus tart story is making it start to look like some mad middle class soap opera.

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