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To loathe lefties with a passion?

362 replies

Abitwobblynow · 25/02/2013 12:51

Came across this and loved it. Punctures left wing twats right between the eyes!

"The point is that the "hierarchy of victims " is not an accident nor unique to this case. It is the whole basis on which lefties' views and loyalties in any issue are shaped - i.e. not by its rights and wrongs, but by who the protagonists are.

Any group you can think of can be slotted somewhere into the heirarchy of those whom the left either likes - ethnic minorities, Muslims, communists, strikers, the disabled, women, gays, public sector workers, dole claimants, and criminals, for example - or loathes: Americans, Tories, farmers, taxpayers, men generally, bankers and owners of private wealth.

These hatreds instruct the left on any issue. If demonstrating NUM miners are forcibly dispersed by the police, they side with the miners. If the Countryside Alliance are dispersed by the police, however, they side with the police, because they like miners and hate farmers.

If a Tory government withdraws money from pensioners it's the epitome of evil. If an NHS worker leaves the elderly to starve to death in their own excrement, the left couldn't care less. The left isn't pro-elderly unless this means being anti-someone else. If the someone else is the NHS producer, then the left isn't pro-elderly any more. The side they pick is the producer, who matters more than the consumer.

Where it all goes tits up is when two different client groups are at each others' throats. So the leftist sympathises with the criminal in general - unless the crime is domestic violence. Then they sympathise with the woman. Unless, again, the man is a Muslim cleric, in which case the lefty has to look away. Reggae singers going on about shooting gays in the head: this does not compute. Gangs of Muslims threatening gays: does not compute. Black governments victimising their own citizens? Pretend it isn't happening.

The left doesn't really give a toss about miners. What matters is who else is involved. White British police? - side with the miners. Black Communist-controlled police? - side with the police, they're above reproach - or at any rate, above miners [reference to ANC police and black miners at Marikana].

As we've noted before, Lefties reduce every issue to a disgusting form of Top Trumps. They are, quite simply, morally incompetent."

Is it unreasonable to agree that lefties are morally incompetent?

OP posts:
Tanith · 25/02/2013 14:44

Wondering if Rhiannon has ever heard of a man called Richard Branson...

Lovelygoldboots · 25/02/2013 14:44

There are plenty of Tories on here. I've seen them. I might not always agree with them but they don't have green scaly skin and come from another planet.

ComposHat · 25/02/2013 14:45

Of course Mumsnet is a "leftie" site!

You seem curiously unconstrained by anything approaching evidence. You saying something over and over again doesn't make it true.

seeker · 25/02/2013 14:51

If I had to categorise mumsnet, politically, I would call it soft centre right, with noticeable outliers.

larrygrylls · 25/02/2013 14:53

They are missing out on the general hypocrisy of the left:

They want higher taxes on the "rich". The "rich" always starts at about 1.5x to 2x whatever they are earning, whatever they are earning. They also never freely donate money to HMRC, despite there being no prohibition in so doing.

They detest private education except for their own children.

They love mutlicultural society but prefer to live in nice sheltered enclaves where the local Pakistani population speak immaculate English and are mostly doctors and lawyers.

I could go on....

Brilliant article, by the way.

FillyPutty · 25/02/2013 14:55

seeker: that's because you hang out in the Education board. Wink

AmberLeaf · 25/02/2013 14:56

More bollocks generalisations none of which are true either from larrygrylls.

I love multicultural society and I actually live slap bang in the middle of it.

xigris · 25/02/2013 14:57

Are you Jeremy Hunt in disguise?

GothAnneGeddes · 25/02/2013 14:57

Not this rubbish about "enclaves". I live in a working class area that is hugely multicultural and staunchly Labour.

TolliverGroat · 25/02/2013 14:57

"Of course Mumsnet is a "leftie" site!"

Isn't it also a business? Except it can't be, because of course lefties don't found businesses. D'oh!

flippinada · 25/02/2013 14:58

I think leaving the politics aside for one moment, this is a really nasty, spiteful post from someone who is a prolific poster and has had a lot of support on the boards from the kind of people she is so quick to denigrate.

People will draw their own conclusions from that.

MrsDeVere · 25/02/2013 15:02

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

25catsnameSam · 25/02/2013 15:06

OP YABU because you haven't come back to source this load of rubbish, which reads as if it's been copied from a Youth BNP propaganda sheet, or some 6th form debating notes that are trying to provoke an extreme reaction.
FWIW I do agree that anyone who holds the beliefs outlined on your OP is a bit of a twat. But I don't think that the left do hold those views. Just as I don't believe all Tories swig champagne whilst wiping their feet on a prole.

And as for "punctures..between the eyes", well that just makes you sound charmless and illiterate.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 25/02/2013 15:08

Abitwobbly, you do realise that every paragraph of your OP could be inverted to create a stereotyped parody of right-wing views?

..."the hierarchy of those whom the right either loathes - ethnic minorities, Muslims, communists, strikers, the disabled, women, gays, public sector workers, dole claimants, and criminals, for example - or likes: Americans, Tories, farmers, taxpayers, men generally, bankers and owners of private wealth."

Do you feel that would be an appropriate representation of your own views? Confused

So, I'm not entirely sure the rant has pwned 'the left' in quite the way you seem to imagine.

(It also reads a bit like that discredited 'holiday trees at the White House' spiel that was doing the rounds a while back, anyone else think that?)

larrygrylls · 25/02/2013 15:24

"Abitwobbly, you do realise that every paragraph of your OP could be inverted to create a stereotyped parody of right-wing views?"

But, that is why I like it! The parody of right wing views is the norm and this is the exception. It was New Labour who so successfully labelled the Tories the "nasty" party, so much so that even the word "Tory" became tarnished.

A lot of left wingers do consider themselves fundamentally "nicer" than right wingers and it just ain't so. I have observed plenty of hypocrisy among the left, some of which I highlighted above. They are huge generalisitions and there are some very kind thoughtful people on the left, as much as the right. The real debate should be about how we want our resources to be distributed and who is most effective at doing it, the state or the private sector or some combination. As long as the left try and make it a test of moral character, though, I think it is fair to debate on the same terms.

EldritchCleavage · 25/02/2013 15:24

Very cunning, if crude, button-pressing OP.

But actually, clientalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clientelism explained here not is confined to the left-the right does it too.

flippinada · 25/02/2013 15:24

Yes, I've got my own Filly but I don't like those kind of threads either.

EldritchCleavage · 25/02/2013 15:24

Bloody link fail. Sorry.

flippinada · 25/02/2013 15:26

My own opinions, I mean to say.

Perhaps someone has hacked her account? It does happen.

ComposHat · 25/02/2013 15:29

larry This is a fantasy, these people exist only in your mind, this is a caricature that you have dreamt up.

Brilliant article, by the way

You appear to be a very undemanidng reader if you consider this to be a brilliant article. If you consider that to be brilliant, you may also enjoy the work of Dan Brown and whoever wrote the Topsy and Tim series.*

*If you suspect that by suggesting that you may enjoy a series of 1970s children's books, that I am implying you are not overly blessed with the grey matter, then you would be correct.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 25/02/2013 15:31

Yeh, it didn't seem like her to me either ( but I haven't got either spread-sheets or a photographic memory - mine's more like a goldfish one ! Blush )

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 25/02/2013 15:35

Doubt it's a hacked account, I seem to recall that OP has form for this. Try advanced search for 'threads started by', can't do it meself as the DC are back now

weegiemum · 25/02/2013 15:37

I keep trying to write another reply that won't be perceived as angry or smug-leftie.

We're happy with our leftish political choice!

Think I'll vanish.

cory · 25/02/2013 15:38

larry, a short reflection of the demographics of this country should make it clear that there simply aren't enough of these private-school-using, sheltered-enclave-living voters to support a political party large enough to make it to government on a regular basis

the majority of Labour voters must look rather different

as indeed they do

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