To loathe lefties with a passion?

[Abitwobblynow]

Came across this and loved it. Punctures left wing twats right between the eyes!

"The point is that the "hierarchy of victims " is not an accident nor unique to this case. It is the whole basis on which lefties' views and loyalties in any issue are shaped - i.e. not by its rights and wrongs, but by who the protagonists are.

Any group you can think of can be slotted somewhere into the heirarchy of those whom the left either likes - ethnic minorities, Muslims, communists, strikers, the disabled, women, gays, public sector workers, dole claimants, and criminals, for example - or loathes: Americans, Tories, farmers, taxpayers, men generally, bankers and owners of private wealth.

These hatreds instruct the left on any issue. If demonstrating NUM miners are forcibly dispersed by the police, they side with the miners. If the Countryside Alliance are dispersed by the police, however, they side with the police, because they like miners and hate farmers.

If a Tory government withdraws money from pensioners it's the epitome of evil. If an NHS worker leaves the elderly to starve to death in their own excrement, the left couldn't care less. The left isn't pro-elderly unless this means being anti-someone else. If the someone else is the NHS producer, then the left isn't pro-elderly any more. The side they pick is the producer, who matters more than the consumer.

Where it all goes tits up is when two different client groups are at each others' throats. So the leftist sympathises with the criminal in general - unless the crime is domestic violence. Then they sympathise with the woman. Unless, again, the man is a Muslim cleric, in which case the lefty has to look away. Reggae singers going on about shooting gays in the head: this does not compute. Gangs of Muslims threatening gays: does not compute. Black governments victimising their own citizens? Pretend it isn't happening.

The left doesn't really give a toss about miners. What matters is who else is involved. White British police? - side with the miners. Black Communist-controlled police? - side with the police, they're above reproach - or at any rate, above miners [reference to ANC police and black miners at Marikana].

As we've noted before, Lefties reduce every issue to a disgusting form of Top Trumps. They are, quite simply, morally incompetent."

Is it unreasonable to agree that lefties are morally incompetent?

Its very hard to pin these 'right wingers down.

A lot of family farms barely make a living. Many should be claiming 'in work' benefits and things like free school meals but steadfastly refuse to.

Those 'lefties' are just as tricky.

They might be reading the Giuardian while sipping Fairtrade cafe latte and still living in a £2 million house and planning a ski holiday while sending DCs to a private school.

A lot of the points in the OP are true

Such as?

Oh and I notice we still don't have a source for this article?

Fascinating excerpt in the opening post I could almost see the steam coming out of the ears of the author (love to know where it came from) - it is not in the least upsetting as there has to be a recognisable truth in order for something to be offensive.

The left can be criticised for being too fond of factions and in-fighting rather than being robotic in supprting 'sides' the main characteristic is that there is no unified 'left wing' - in my own family we range from Anarchists, to Socialist workers, to new Labour to old Labour and practically liberal - all could be described as 'Lefties' but you can be assured that in any given arguement there would be opposing sides/ views! So trying to paint Lefties as morally incomptetant and unable to appreciate nuance is baffling to me. I have no issue with people disagreeing with me (there are obviously sadly deluded but whatever) but this argument in the op is flawed imo. So you abu

I think a lot of people are just taking the piss out of the extreme and ridiculous op TheRhubarb. I know I was.

Still laughing at tax-payers and Muslims as examples of politicial idealists rather than just erm, groups of people totally seperate and unrelated to political parties.

What a load of bollocks.

Poor old Wibbly, you are unravelling dear.

sorry wobbly

YABU - is this a joke post??

Oh and starting a business or horror wanting to make money - is not the sole concern of the right wing individual - I like working and earning money and spending it - I also am left wing and concerned about the way in which individuals are treated in order to maximise profit therefore cooperatives and fairtrade businesses are enterprises I like to support when I can. My father was a key mamber of the Industrial Common Ownership Movement (ICOM) in the 70's and 80's and a business adviser who helped set up a number of Cooperative business ventures all motivated by the desire to combine ethics and business - it is possible.

most of the posts here are focused on calling Tories twats

?!?!

The OP said Punctures left wing twats right between the eyes

The use of the word on the thread is in direct reference to that!

Something for cory's reality research!!

I have a very simple way of dividing Tories, MoreBeta:

a) sensible and civilised people who just happen to have different political views from me

and

b) loons

Category b) is thankfully somewhat smaller than category a). I think you might find the same method works equally well for leftwingers.

Abitwobbly: you get the prize for making me laugh with your thread title. And no, yanbu. In fact, it's marvellous to come across something on MN that isn't crooning over the loony left.

Strange that the OP has not come back ...

Very interesting.

Though, I read Condoleeza Rice's autobiography, and she made an intriguing point (as a black woman who was a staunch Republican). She said one of the reasons she was a Republican (also because the Republicans had let her father register as a voter, their support of the NRA and other stuff) is because she would rather be ignored than patronised (the Democrats at the time were selling themselves as the party of "women, blacks, and other minorities"). It was an interesting viewpoint.

Anyway.

I only ever meet Category B's online! The Tories I know in real life are all a's!

On another note, my friend has a lorry called Katie Middleton so every time I see you post, katiemiddleton, it makes me think of a lorry.

I come from a very very lefty family, my stepdad is a unionist and although they are a little bit champagne I respect him with a passion. since he met my mum, he has changed the posh little village she lives in. It used to be council houses on one side, cottages and the old school and hospital on the other, along with the "big house". he has changed it beyond recognition, although an athiest, the church and the "church types" now running reading groups, homework sessions where local teachers volunteer to hear children read (in homes where books are considered a waste of time), cricket, football, cycling and lots and lots of local events. i live in ME, tax free and am not a socialist by any means but if people like him are putting their money where their mouth is and tirelessly fighting for people in every walk of life regardless of them being titled or in a council house, homeless or whatever I am reluctant to judge. He has also fought for a school bus (to save some getting a taxi to themselves because they are on benefits and others who are not having to make private arrangements) and a regular bus to town at a subsidised rate and opened up the cycle lane, provided free bikes and has everyone wanting the best for their village. If that's socialism, fine by me. the flower show, dog show, ferret racing, jumbles, etc are actually quite fun especially when he insists that the "bad" teenagers run the car park.

There are plenty of different view points on mumsnet. Saying this is a "leftie" site is utter bollocks. We live in a democracy and if you are a grown up you will have your own point of view. op, if you don't mind me saying you are a goady twat.

Your friend has excellent taste Spoonful

Loving cory's epistemological musings.

Oh, Grow up, OP.

Same experience here, LeftwingTwat. I do hope it is not a sign of our lack of contact with Reality...

"Of course Mumsnet is a "leftie" site!"

In what way?