AIBU to be a bit fucking sick of troll threads

[AnyFuckerForAMincePie]

Another one goes poof. The "friend of boyfriend climbed into bed with me". Amongst many others.

Starting to wonder what is the point in posting anything supportive. To anybody.

I know it's been said but one of ther worst things about the multiple troll posts is that unknown/new posters can find themselves missing out on support they desperately need because people, somewhat understandably, only want to post on threads from names they recognise. Not that I know the answer, just find it sad.

They should get banned then IMO.

They seem to push sensitive buttons like disability and I'm sure result in a lot of people getting upset who really could do without it.

What I really hate are the threads started by vampires to suck out sad stories. There was a horrible one a few months ago about a supposed cot death. It was started just a few hours after a well known mnetter had lost her child. Plainly some vile, inadequate little person saw the love and care that was being shown and thought 'I'll have some of that'. Beyond horrible.

I've got so cynical now that anything that features 'I've had x terrible thing happen, have you TELL ME ABOUT IT' has me hitting 'report' as a reflex.

I think you're all trolls. Every one of you.

Either that or inside my head. Which is a nice place to be, I think.

Rainbow if you were banned previously and then came back? Yes, you'll be deleted and banned again. That's what banned means. You can't come back.

But if all it was that you couldn't log in, without any communication from HQ? You weren't banned. You had a tech issue. And you were deleted just now for something on the thread. I don't know what because I didn't read the thread.

I don't know if that was started by a troll. Personally I thought all too likely if she was in early 20's.

Maybe it was hijacked later on? Some posters are very vile in what they write, or damning. Seen several where posters were getting very get up and practically encouraging lynching!

I thought some people do get banned, and come back again.
Some for 6 months, some for eg a month?
Not so sure about trolls being allowed to come back.

I think that AF does tend to take the time to post supportive messages (esp on relationhip issues)

but I also think that if you are getting this annoyed by troll threads, it might be a sign to focus emotional energies in a different direction? I mean that kindly! people in RL could benefit equally from the AF sound advise and wisdom

Morning.

Thought it might be helpful to make a couple of points here...

First, AnyFucker (and everyone else), yes, it absolutely is worth posting advice/posting something supportive. Even on weeks (like this one) when there are a few trolls and troublemakers, 99.9% of threads and posters are absolutely genuine. Please don't let one of two arses stop you being kind and helpful: that way, the arses win and MN is a poorer place.

Also, please remember that on every thread, there are hundreds of lurkers who are reading but not posting. And they may well be in a similar situation to the OP (even if the OP is only pretending it's their situation to get their ridiculous rocks off). So your advice and support is probably helping many many others, too.

@TheSecondComing

I was banned for 6 months, not for trolling, but for raising an eyebrow (verbally) at all the trolls/bullshit merchants. I am now far more circumspect and find myself doing a lot of thread hiding, I don't report any more, I have a mental list of who's dodgy.... I'll leave it at that!

PLEASE DO REPORT

Or we can't ban the fuckers get rid of the trolls.

The strange thing about MN is that even when someone is identified as a troll by HQ and they post on the thread that its a troll, there's still a chorus of posters going "ooh perhaps we can still help them".

I just don't get that at all. E.g. that "teenage girl" that was being supported, was probably some middle aged block knocking one off to the people who are baring their souls to support the fucker.

MN. Are trolls ever let back again?

Endodtherainbow MNHQ does not tolerate people posting from different accounts at all, so if you are genuine, that was your mistake. They allow namechanges for privacy so if people are using multiple accounts from the same IP address they assume trolling.
If you email them I'm sure they will explain why you were banned/deleted.

@LadyBeagleBaublesandBells

You're right Maryz. And I do report, and like you, I have a radar, where threads just don't ring true. But the rools say report, which I do, I don't want to risk a ban on MN, because I love it here, but it seems to have happened to other posters who were a bit outspoken. And because I like it here I'm very careful what I say these days. Which IMO gives the trolls free range, because if you ever doubt, you will be deleted. MN needs to look at their guidelines again in the NY. Until then I'm dumbed down.

Our 'no trollhunting' rule is there for very good reason, LadyBeagleBaublesandBells.

First, those who cry troll are quite often wrong. We can tell you that quite categorically. And we can also tell you how horrible and hurtful it is for an OP who's finally plucked up the courage to ask for help with a tricky, sensitive issue to be met with endless "bugger off, you trucker" type posts.

Second, posting "troll" won't get the troll (if it is a troll) banned. We can only ban trolls if you let us know about them. MN is a post-moderated boards: at MNHQ, we can't possibly read every one of the 40,000 posts a day, so we rely on you folks to let us know when you think there is someone hairy-handed about. We are usually pretty quick to ban when a troll's been reported (and it is indeed a troll) and we always reply to reports to let you know what we're doing.

And finally, trollhunting actually slows us down in terms of catching and banning trolls. If we have to spend time deleting trollhunting posts, that cuts down time we could be spending delving about behind the scenes, finding out what the suspected troll's been up to - and banning if necessary.

So please do report, if ever you think you've spotted a troll. We'd really really appreciate it.

Should have put MNHQ. Are trolls ever let back again?

@amillionyears

Should have put MNHQ. Are trolls ever let back again?

As if.

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I was a little narky last night. Think annoying xmas visitors in more ways than one

It was a good discussion anyway.

Yadnbu.

Couple of questions:

1. I get that it's easy to spot a troll when it's a fantastical post, where the OP ploughs on regardless, refusing to clarify and doesn't listen to helpful advice, or answer any questions, but I was totally sucked in by the boyfriend and boyfriend's friend in teh bed one Where were the signs there?
2. Call me naive, but I just don't get the point of trolling. It seems so pathetic and pointless - would anyone really start a conversation, just to light the touchpaper, and then stand back and watch the fallout, or try and get people to share tragic stories? WTF is the point? Are there really people who have nothing better to do/enjoy that? MAybe I've answered my own question there....

Pain in the backside anyway.

Unfortunately there are some very dubious individuals who do get a kick from other people's pain and misery.

Re trollhunting - there was a poster I was CONVINCED was a troll. I didn't believe a word of their situation. So I reported - at least three times. Finally earlier this year I cam across evidence that this person was..........totally 100% genuine. I was wrong. It's very, very possible and I could have done massive damage if I'd rampaged 'calling troll'

I have learned not to say 'Bollocks' on MN.

Tbh it's something I say to friends in RL when they're telling me a tale and I think that their views or what they did are ... bollocks. It doesn't mean that I'm accusing them of lying.

Yep, using the word "Bollocks" on MN is the post that got me a ban

I'm not terribly good at spotting trolls.

But the ones I can spot are the ones who get a lot of grief but just trundle on, never taking offence and never picking up on any of the "er, why on earth aren't you doing [insert obvious course of action]?" type posts.

There have been a few threads where there is just no way the OP wouldn't have been yelling and screaming about some of the responses if they were actually telling the truth about what was going on.