To feel bad about lying to my children?

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Father Christmas. Totally acceptable lying.

Don't get me wrong, we "do" Father Christmas but I'm not convinced about the ethics of lying to my sprogs.

LOL They can do whatever they want!

Probably the complete opposite puds. And whatever they do with their own children I'll go along with it.

hohohokey you dont need to pay for your videos on portable north pole ..there is a free edition which is magical

I dont know any children who think of santa as nasty... I know if I tell my son I will phone santa its me he gets mad at not santa.. cos santa knows he is really a good boy..!!

hokey the free video on portable north pole is pretty good if you want to give that a try?

Sorry x-posted!

fraser you should read the story about 'My Naughty Little Sister' she bites Santa's hand at a Christmas Fete think it's by Shirley Hughes, brilliant stories.

Sorry, didn't mean that to sound rude, am genuinely interested.

I wonder if my DD will be annoyed with me when she finds out santa isn't real.

Even when i found out he wasn't real, i still believed in him IYKSWIM. still do

Free you say frasersmummy, from where please tell?

I think i might be puds

We do the tooth fairy too, IMO life is shit enough and it's nice to bring a bit of magic and wonder to the world whilst they are still young.

Sorry i just saw portable north pole

Thank you turkey am off to google now!!

I hated my parents after I realised they'd lied about Santa!!......NOT.

If u feel bad then don't do it. Don't be suprised when they tell their children "lies" about Santa. I love the "lies" about Santa

Now i'm imagining our childrens generation doing exactly this thread, with my DD saying she hated being lied to and your children saying they hated being told the truth

Thats the most likely outcome isn't it!

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CailinDana - only literal truth, always?

Isn't that very black and white?

DS knows santa doesn't exist and dd keeps asking as she wants to believe still but strongly suspects not - I don't think i ever acknowledged to my parents that i knew he didn't and up till I stopped going home for Xmas we always talked of santa giving presents but we all knew it was my mum and I would say 'thank you santa' to her. It's just a bit of fun - no harm comes of telling children that there is magic - why do we all have to make our children know how real the world is - do you tell them everything all the time did you explain to your dc exactly what Jimmy Saville did to children do you explain exactly everything that is going on in the world or do you make it appropriate to their age and understanding - do you explain every magic trick so they know it isn't real - why not let them have a little magic and make believe in their lives - reality is there all to soon , can't you just let them be kids for a little bit of time?

Good grief!

Lighten up!

Oh please, not going along with FC doesn't automatically make you into someone who can't tell the difference between something that is age appropriate or not!

And yes when my ds asked what JS did I told him as he is old enough to know now -had he asked a few years ago it wouldn't have been appropriate.

valium I was really talking about those who insist children should know the whole truth abut everything - this is a stupid thread .

I think childhood should be magical. I don't really think telling children about Father Christmas is lying. Childhood, make believe, magic is fleeting and should be treasured - there are many years for reality and cynicism. I think it is awful when people use Father Christmas as a threat though - the Potable North Pole is lovely and magical, but there is an option for a message for a 'naughty' child - I can't believe anyone would use it like this, but I suppose they must do.

It's odd how people are so sure that you have to convince your children FC exists in order for them to enjoy Christmas, look forward to getting presents or have a bit of excitement/magic in their lives.

Letting you child believe in FC (or magic, elves, fairies etc) while they are little is not the same as actively spinning a load of lies imo.

My DS has visited santa, watched his video, is putting out a stocking and all of the other magical Christmas traditions - without me needing to lie to him.

So, basically the OP should do what she feels comfortable with. Her children will have a wonderful Christmas whether they believe Father Christmas is a real person or a magical story.

Well I think it's brilliant. I revel in the lie, I spin the lie, I embellish the lie and I love it. They really really believe for such a short time.
The whole Santa business is the closest any of us ever come to actual magic in our lifetime.
It's not lying - it's making magic.

Go Pictish

Good post sam :)

Rubberglove I'm not sure what you mean.