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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
GreatUncleEddie · 17/12/2012 13:29

Very calm texts from you, well done

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 17/12/2012 13:54

FUCKING HELL!

weemouse · 17/12/2012 13:56

I just have to say, your SIL sounds like a complete loon, and well done you for remaining as calm as you have!

You were soooooooooooooooo right in the restaurant.

Keep us updated please!

butisthismyname · 17/12/2012 14:14

I have just spent the last half an hour reading this instead of comletely a project at work Blush. I too am looking forward to an update! SIL is clearly one of those people who cannot understand why no-one thinks her cherubs are 'hilarious' and 'sweet'.

ShipwreckedUnderTheTree · 17/12/2012 17:11

She invited herself for BD??

Genuinely Xmas Shock

LtXmasEve · 17/12/2012 17:16

Very impressed with how calm you are OP - I wouldn't be in your shoes! Sadly I don't think your SIL will equate her behaviour with your actions now. She seems seriously thick skinned.

Have a lovely (quiet) Christmas Smile

stifnstav · 17/12/2012 17:53

OP, you really should have said he can't manage small children with such vibrant personalities!

RandomMess · 17/12/2012 17:57

I am just Shock

BaublesAndCuntingCarolSingers · 17/12/2012 18:00

Tell her to fuck off. Tell her to fuck off across the sea in a big welly.

fosterdream · 17/12/2012 18:05

So OP how did the chat go between DH and SIL?

We disowned my in-laws so very interested how you're crazy SIL reacts!

EuphemiaInExcelsis · 17/12/2012 18:09

I dream of disowning my in-laws. Watching with interest.

MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 18:18

I dont understand why in laws turn into such twats when they become an IL, do people really just enjoy making life misery for the "intruder"

Familyguyfan · 17/12/2012 18:29

Maybe tell her you are oiling your robot children and she therefore isn't welcome...

... Alternatively tell her she's shot her mouth off and now she's reaping the rewards. That means she isn't invited!

Stick to your guns!!

Shinyballsandtinsel · 17/12/2012 18:33

Incidentally, SIL will not be alone over Christmas, her DH who works away will be home.

I must thank BaublesAndCuntingCarolSingers for her various suggestions, they are outstanding!

Update, although I feel a bit embarrassed after all my restraint and trying to keep it dignified, my DH not exactly heading for a career in the diplomatic corps.... Xmas Hmm

DH phoned MIL first, apparently SIL phoned MIL after getting my text and said I'd "snubbed" her, as she had re-invited me to Christmas. MIL said not sure if she is bullshitting as don't think she is brave enough well, what did she expect, she told me not to come. SIL then apparently was upset on MILs behalf as MIL would not be seeing her older GC on Christmas Day trying to wind MIL up like a clock when MIL said that she would be coming over on Boxing Day. MIL said that SIL asked if she was invited, and MIL told SIL that he wasn't mentioned - MIL swears blind she did not invite her.

DH said to MIL about the robots comment, MIL tutted, and then said "Oh dear, but what can you do, we don't want to upset her". Basically DH didn't labour the point with MIL, as obviously he doesn't want to upset her and he reckons it was clear she felt stuck in the middle.

Then DH rang SIL, which did not go so well. He started off by saying sorry, but after we were told we were not welcome on Christmas Day, we went off and made our own arrangements, if she changed her mind then tough, we weren't going to be messed around.

He then asked about taking over the kids Christmas presents. She then asked what to do about our kids presents (new batteries I expect) and he told her to give them to him when he dropped her kids' presents off. She then said well why couldn't she come around on Boxing Day and drop off gifts then, and DH said "because we don't want you to, you were really rude about our kids and we don't want people who think that of them spending time under the same roof as them".

She then did the typically passive aggressive thing "Oh it was only a joke, can't shiny take a joke, she's getting really miserable - first she is moaning about DC running around, now she can't take a silly joke". DH responded "the joke wasn't really funny, and she wasn't moaning about DC running around, they were getting on everyone's nerves, and we were all embarrassed that you did nothing". She responded with "they weren't doing any harm, they were only enjoying themselves, your family could take a leaf out of their book, at least my kids have got some go in them etc. etc.", to which he simply responded "oh fuck off you silly cow" and put the phone down.......

I can practically feel the phone lines in meltdown betwee SIL and MIL house now.

OP posts:
Shelby2010 · 17/12/2012 18:36

Yeah! Go DH!

Good on him for standing up to her.

EggNogRules · 17/12/2012 18:37

At least you DH intervened. "oh fuck off you silly cow"

SpecialAgentKat · 17/12/2012 18:41

Ohhh the satisfaction of the phone thud...! Xmas Grin

SpecialAgentKat · 17/12/2012 18:43

P.S. Love how DH calls yet she still blames OP? Xmas Hmm

Well she's fucked up her own Christmas and made yours a great one!

ImNotCute · 17/12/2012 18:43

Ha ha, well if someone was going to tell her to fuck off I think it's best it was your dh and you've remained dignified and above it. She's really daft to be still pushing the line about her kids having personality/ go/ whatever.

HoleyGhost · 17/12/2012 18:43

You are well rid of her. When you have a chance I'd show MIL the text conversation. Not to tell tales but to protect yourselves from MIL's spin. Enjoy future family events without the inevitable drama of your SIL.

conantg · 17/12/2012 18:47

Excellent response by DH. Could of course have been slightly improved as follows "Oh fuck off you silly cow to the far side of fuckness and when you get there fucking fuck off some more". Xmas Grin

PessaryPam · 17/12/2012 18:49

Outstanding from your DH! Sometimes it just has to be said.

CabbageLeaves · 17/12/2012 18:50

Xmas Grin I love your DH

Cuddlyrunner · 17/12/2012 18:53

I joined mumsnet simply because of this thread :-) Stick to your guns OP and well done to your DH

nkf · 17/12/2012 18:53

You've got to love men. We have carefully worded texts. We have subtle and witty put downs. And what does he opt for? Fuck off you silly cow. You can't help admire it.

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