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worried about social services

215 replies

mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 17:28

i have heard in the news alot of bad press about childrens social services. can any social workers in here put my mind at rest and tell me what the reasons are for removing a child ?

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MrsDeVere · 27/10/2012 21:08

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MrsDeVere · 27/10/2012 21:11

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TandB · 27/10/2012 21:12

So what has your solicitor said, other than "I'm surprised they took him?"

What is he currently doing in relation to your daughter's case?

Spero · 27/10/2012 21:16

I hope it goes well on Monday. You either need a better lawyer, or a better explanation.

Spero · 27/10/2012 21:19

MrsDV, I am not sure so don't quote me, but I thought that now public funding was being slashed er I mean sensibly re-ordered, it was difficult for solicitors to get a contract with the Legal Services Commission to do this kind of work unless they were all on the Panel, or whatever it is called now.

If I am wrong about that, I think that should be the case. This is trickly work to do if you are not experienced. It is not that the law is particularly difficult but often it is a judgment call as to what is the best thing to do and you need to be exposed to the case law and judge's likely reactions.

LineRunner · 27/10/2012 21:33

I think it would be useful to know from the OP what her/their said about the contsnts of the Police Protection Order and the Interim Order.

The solicitor can't surely have simply said, I don't understand it?

MrsDeVere · 27/10/2012 21:33

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Spero · 27/10/2012 21:36

Bloody hell! I assume she is going to see her local conveyancing solicitor?

MrsDeVere · 27/10/2012 21:39

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Spero · 27/10/2012 21:46

Sorry to hear that. I don't think there is much you can do, just try to be stoical.

But I bet she is fully plugged in to a numberof websites, all telling her she has been a victim of a serious miscarriage of justice and you paid for her baby, etc, etc.

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FriendofDorothy · 27/10/2012 22:19

There is definitely something else behind this whole story. SW's just don't remove kids for no reason.

Spero · 27/10/2012 22:28

Will she try to contact him on FB or similar when he is older do you think? That could be difficult. I have no clue what I could say to make that easy to understand. Particularly if she believes a whole alternative reality.

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Spero · 27/10/2012 22:59

I guess you cannot expect emotional intelligence from people in these circs. If they had it, they would probably still have their children.

But this is part of reason I hate so much all these forced adoption websites - encouraging people to think it's all someone else's fault and they never have to examine their own behaviour or take responsibility for the harm they have done.

Portofino · 27/10/2012 23:25

Oh MrsD that sound a nightmare. I forget the nn of the poster on MN who adopted or is fostering a teenager who needs to be protected from her RL family via Social Media. I LOVE FB but it is a fecking load of shit in these circumstances.

boomting · 28/10/2012 03:17

Wow, just saw that Forced Adoption website . . . the man appears to be utterly unhinged. It's all a wall of text, with repetitions, random capitalisation of words, and bizarre advice. If he has always written to that standard, then there's no way he actually has a law degree (from Oxford or anywhere else!)

mutny · 28/10/2012 06:28

I am confused, again. But the OP says when they room the child they told her she couldn't have him because of her medical condition. But has also said its because the ex turned up at hers and there was a 'domestic' incident.

So which is it?

When did he go to prison?

TheHumancatapult · 28/10/2012 06:55

Op the wheelchair thing can be challgened but does depend on why in a wheelchair

My younger foster sister having some issues and has Ss involvement but they have agreed to allow my young niece to stay with me every other weekend ( am sp in a wheelchair and 4dc one with Sn but two of the dc are older 18,15, ) . They assessed that I can cope and have had assement that in case they decided to remove niece then she can come to me full time . Hopefully won't happen as my sister getting help but it's there iykwim

TheHumancatapult · 28/10/2012 06:56

Another option ask about is a shared parenting order as this had been discussed to

superchick · 28/10/2012 07:43

I haven't read the full thread so sorry if its been said already but OP get your dd to do the "freedom programme" to educate her about dv and show CYPS that she's serious about not going back to a violent relationship.

Spero · 28/10/2012 08:57

There is no such thing as a 'shared parenting order'

There are 'public law' orders I.e. Where the LA continues to be involved with your family. These are care or supervision orders.

There are 'private law' orders I.e. Residence or contact orders that are between individuals

And there is also a special guardianship order which is something between adoption and residence. You don't adopt the child, his parents keep their PR but you have 'super' PR which trumps theirs.

In ops position if she wants to look after her grandson she should be thinking of SGO or residence order. But with such concerns about violence that would probably have to run alongside a supervision order, at least for a while.

mysecretworld · 28/10/2012 17:38

i will let you all know what the solicitor says when we see him tomorrow (monday).

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Emmon · 28/10/2012 18:51

I have had a past violent relationship and was brought up by horribly abusive parents. I still have custody of my son and no ss involvement. There is no consistency between how they treat people.

Devora · 28/10/2012 20:42

To an extent that's inevitable, Emmon. They don't survey us all and reach consistent judgments on who is doing better or worse; they can only act when something has happened to alert them to a situation. Sadly, all too often abusive parenting flies under the radar.