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worried about social services

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 17:28

i have heard in the news alot of bad press about childrens social services. can any social workers in here put my mind at rest and tell me what the reasons are for removing a child ?

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Shesparkles · 27/10/2012 19:35

So you're saying 2of the incidents have been since the baby's birth,in his presence?

A person doesn't have to be assaulted for domestic violence to be committed

LineRunner · 27/10/2012 19:36

I wonder what the grounds and evidence given in the Interim Care Order are?

Jomato · 27/10/2012 19:38

That may be what it says in the order bit that's not the specifics of the concerns and the events that led to the concerns, that will be in the social workers statement. I'll ask again, have you read this statement?

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 19:42

reading it again now so will put info up when i finish reading it

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LineRunner · 27/10/2012 19:46

I think what would be helpful is seeing the evidence that is given.

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 19:55

it says that my daughter subjected my grandson to emotional abuse
also her failure to protect he child from domestic abuse
it also says he baby was taken on a ppo because there was no one else there that could have him.

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Wowserz129 · 27/10/2012 19:56

OP I have to agree with the social worker on here.

I have a lot of experience dealing with sw cases and there is no way they would come and take the baby unless there was imminent danger of harm to the baby.

Your daughter is obviously not telling you the truth. Either that or your being naive as to the real situation. Either way your daughter needs to get help so she doesn't continue to be in relationships with abusive men before she gets her son back.

amillionyears · 27/10/2012 19:56

I dont know much about social workers or any of this at all.
Some questions,and not sure if they are relevant.
When your granson was taken,were you there that day?
You seem unsure whether he was at a mother and baby unit ,or a refuge. Is it at all possible that they were at say a squat?
Does your daughter lie to you?
Is it possible that she has a new partner that could be violent also.
Aer you absolutely sure she is in no contact whatsoever with the father by facebook or whatever.

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 19:59

you know what i am trying my best to tell everyone what they want to know truthfully but all i am getting back is people saying i am lieing. think i would get more advice on one of them forced adoptions sites than i will on here.

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rainbowinthesky · 27/10/2012 20:02

No, my secretworld, you are getting plenty of information but people cannot tell you a definitive answer without knowing all the information and you clearly dont know all the information yourself.

SirBoobAlot · 27/10/2012 20:02

I don't see the relevance of you saying he was bathed every day - was there the suggestion of neglect as well?

Still sure you're not giving us an entirely honest picture here.

Jomato · 27/10/2012 20:03

A ppo would not be granted because no where else could have him. When a ppo is granted a social worker places a child in foster care on the basis of that order, if there was a ico in place he would have gone to the same place, same as if your daughter had given consent. The type of order has nothing to do with where the child goes.
My only suggestion is that you and your daughter get yourself to the solicitors first thing Monday morning, what you are saying does not make sense and a solicitor will be able to talk you through what happened and why based on the evidence submitted to court.

Jomato · 27/10/2012 20:06

If you are genuine I would keep yourself as far away from forced adoption sites as possible as they will take you down the wrong path and make the situation worse. It's legal advice you need, not advice from forced adoption sites or mumsnet.

Corygal · 27/10/2012 20:06

Hi secretworld - can you tell us

  1. How old is your DD
  2. How many other children has she had removed, if any
  3. whether she has had treatment for substance abuse or similar serious psychiatric troubles
  4. any details on her lifestyle/work choices eg has she been in prison.
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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 20:09

my daughter is 19, its her first child, she has had no treatment for any substance abuse or mental health and she has never been in prison and she worked straight from school till she was 6 months pregnant.

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LineRunner · 27/10/2012 20:14

OP says they/she already have a solicitor.

Has this whole thread just been leading up to the OP's statement think i would get more advice on one of them forced adoptions sites than i will on here ?

Spero · 27/10/2012 20:15

Agree with tomato. If you want to follow advice on Forced Adoption etc, wave goodbye to your grandson now. You will be seen as possibly unhinged.

Please, if you believe the removal was unlawful, challenge it in court using evidence, not the conspiracy theories of the Forced Adoption lot.

And please be wary of sharing details of cases, court hearings on the Internet. If the child is identified that could be contempt of court.

All I can say is that I have never heard of a ppo being carried out unless that child was considered by a police officer on the scene to be at really serious risk, right that minute. So if you are saying that wasn't the case then there has been a very serious legal and procedural breach and you mist get it back to court now. Your sol can sek urgent hearing.

amillionyears · 27/10/2012 20:15

Does she have any special needs?

Spero · 27/10/2012 20:15

Ooops, jomato sorry.

Corygal · 27/10/2012 20:15

That's all good news. What about the BF? You may not know his exact CV, but roughly how old is he and what does he do for a living. Any idea on whether he's got form for this? Or what else?

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GrimAndHumourless · 27/10/2012 20:17

has your daughter got a new boyfriend?

I know we are firing questions at you, you may not know the answers but they might trigger points for you consider or explore when you are able

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 20:19

her ex is 24 and has string of convictions and was given a 6 months sentacne for assault on my daughter.

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mysecretworld · 27/10/2012 20:20

no she has not got a new boyfriend as she is trying to sort herself out for her son

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