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to lock DH out tonight and consider asking him to move out permanently

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binrel · 30/07/2012 20:42

This afternoon me and the dds and my brother who is visiting because he is on holiday from university were in the garden just playing football. DH came home early from work and he was clearly already in a bad mood and joined in. My brother then started teasing him whilst they were playing football against each other and he started doing these twists and turns with the ball whilst goading him. He then gave the ball to dd, the next time he got the ball DH charged towards him and leapt off the ground before tackling him. DH's feet went into my brothers leg just above the ankle and my brother's ankle bent in a horrible looking way.

My brother's was in agony on the floor and DH got up and shouted there you go you little twat before storming off into the car and away. I had to call an ambulance as my brother was in so much pain, the dds were also very distressed (they adore my brother). He got taken to hospital and he has suffered partial tear to his ankle ligaments. It's going to take 2-3 months for him to recover. I'm so furious with him for what he has done and the way that he charged over to him with such malice and viscousness, it was obviously not an accident. He went without his house keys I feel like locking the door so he can't come in tonight and I'm really questioning our relationship after this. He has deliberately hurt my brother who I love and so do the dds and they were both hysterical after it. Also we can't afford to go on holiday this year I thought having him stay for 10 days would at least give them something to look forward to this summer and he's done this.

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LurkingAndLearningLovesCats · 01/08/2012 22:43

Why would I be embarrassed? Confused

Again, you're stopping us from supporting the OP which is what you say you want. Seems more like you want us to stop saying what he did was extremely, extremely serious and extremely violent.

Stop whinging so we can support the OP.

LurkingAndLearningLovesCats · 01/08/2012 22:48

In relationships, I have a tendency to be a soft touch and put up with being hit, so there is a chance the DB may say he accepts his apology but really doesn't, and resentment builds over time which could lead to another explosion. First time DB ended up in the hospital, I worry that there could be a 'round two' at some point.

I'm aware it's odd of me to be this strong on this and so piss poor in my personal life, but that's why I'm getting therapy.

clam · 01/08/2012 22:52

Actually, I don't feel that there is likely to be a round 2. (yes, yes, I don't know ). But to be honest, there's enough to be dealing with in Round 1 for the time being.

LurkingAndLearningLovesCats · 01/08/2012 23:00

I agree Clam, don't stress I'm not gunna get all 'but you don't KNOW!' Even I've said there's a slight chance he's just dealing with this in a way that I've never encountered before.

I guess I'm just trying to think of every possible family reaction over the next year or so (including Christmas, birthdays, whatever other holidays are celebrated, if OP's parents are involved in childcare etc etc) So that I can think of constructive advice if/when the situation arises.

This is just such a yucky situation unfortunately even if we have a fairly reasonable idea of how the family will and has reacted, there obviously will be many hurdles to overcome and I want to know what to say when those hurdles come.

thebody · 02/08/2012 00:12

Pictish!!! She asked for opinions and she got them!!! Don't be daft that's aibu mumsnet!! Otherwise why post??

Shullbit · 02/08/2012 01:00

Just wanted to add, that people are literally reading only what the OP has said. The recent posts, to me, read like she is actually gob smacked and in shock. Trying to just quickly update but keeping it minimum. She is in shock, and probably isn't exactly telling us how it is. Like the wine and the takeaway, people are even jumping to conclusions about it being a Chinese for heavens sake. It could be that he called, found out she hadn't ate with all of what has been happening, so decided to bring some food on the way home to make her eat. The wine, well, I don't know on that one. But just because there was takeaway and wine, does not make it cosy. And it does not mean that she is allowing him to sweep it under the rug. And also about the apology, remember that the DB does live quite a while away. He has tried calling him, but got no answer. He has work and is already in trouble with them enough as it is and there is one thing I disagree with. Paying the DB basically compensation for lost earnings/private physiotherapy should not come first before putting food in his wifes and childrens stomach and keeping a roof over their head. He should however stop anything he may partake in that he enjoys to pay DB, but if he actually doesn't have much, if any disposable income, you can't expect the wife or children to suffer. And that includes a loan, as the loan still needs to be paid. Maybe an offer once they are back on their feet would be a good gesture though. Some gesture does need to be made.

I do think some of the comments are harsh. It is almost like telling her she is a mug and should expect to be his next victim. When she is already in shock, and probably has no clue what to think right now whilst also having to concentrate on two daughters, the last thing she needs to feel like is a mug.

It is a very sensitive subject, and still very raw to the OP. There are different ways to being supportive yet honest than being so sharp and abrupt. It might end up tipping the OP over the edge herself. I know how close I have been in the past with certain, very stressful times and reading stuff like this I feel would of been enough to send me doolally.

Just please ladies, be careful with how you say things. I do agree with most, violence can never be excused. Never. I don't even tolerate threats of violence by anyone to anyone else. I have no room for it in my life. But everybody is different, and people can "snap". I suppose it depends on how it is dealt with after that matters, but I don't think right now we should read too much into the OP's post. Her head is probably spinning so fast she can't even process the whole thing properly herself, nevermind explain to a whole forum.

differentnameforthis · 02/08/2012 06:07

Myself & my dh discussed our future over a take away once. I left him while pregnant & agreed to meet up (at home) to discuss what was going to happen for us. The reason for the take away was that it stopped the distractions of having to cook/dish up/clean up after food. It meant that we could sit down without having to worry about the mundane & really get to the point of matters. 10yrs on, we don't regret that takeaway & I can't even remember what it was, it was SO insignificant to the events surrounding it.

I really DO NOT see the issue with them discussing it over food. If she had cooked for him, you would all be tearing her to pieces for that "I wouldn't cook for that bastard" etc. If he had cooked for them, "I wouldn't be eating food that HE cooked" "he puts your brother in hospital & wants to come home & cook for you, how fucking dare he"

Yeah, let the bastard starve!!!! For fucks sake people get a grip! I think it is safe to say that no one has really eaten much since the incident & the takeaway was just a way to get dinner done & out the way!

I guess none of you here have ever had a take away during a crisis!

differentnameforthis · 02/08/2012 06:16

Shullbit Agree re the money aspect. I was very Hmm at the poster who suggested a LOAN for helping BIL out.

What a fab idea, a (possibly) soon to be sacked man getting a loan to give money to his BIL. Not to mention that op said she has been made redundant & things were tight as it is. Great idea, let's encourage them to get into debt when they can least afford it.

Not only that, but when op comes back in a few months summarising that her dh did indeed get sacked, took out a loan for BIL & now they are really struggling, people can bash the dh once more for letting the op down! Again Hmm

shorttermnamechange · 02/08/2012 08:33

Shullbit, just to clarify, since you refer to my posts amongst others. When I have been having crisis talks with my dh, I haven't felt the need to eat and drink wine at the same time - I managed to say what needed to be said without them. In fact, I was so upset that I wouldn't have been able to eat. But I accept that everyone is different. I think for me, that eating and sharing wine, implied a level of forgiveness, which I believe her wider family will find hard to accept. But that is just my pov.

I never said that covering the brother's financial losses should take priority over feeding the family or paying the mortgage. I did say that it should be a priority. If he manages not to get the sack, then I think covering his expenses is more important than having disposable income. The OP will have to make sacrifices too, because she will have chosen to forgive this behaviour and her family need to see that she isn't treating it lightly. I wouldn't expect the children to go without, at all. It's about more than the money - it's showing the wider family that the dh does fully acknowledge that it is his responsibility to put this right and that he is taking it seriously.

I think the OP has to be careful that in her shock and desire to make everything okay, she doesn't appease her husband at the expense of her brother and relationship with her parents/other siblings. She needs to act carefully, if she doesn't want to be alienated from her own family.

PooPooInMyToes · 02/08/2012 08:36

Just read that the poor lad is pissing in a jug!

tiggytape · 02/08/2012 08:54

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amillionyears · 02/08/2012 10:42

binrel,I hope you are ok.I realise you must be in shock.
I dont know where your DH is,or what mood he is in.I would say to be very careful around him ,at least for the next few days
He seems to associate his job,with status and ego.
So after feeling belittled at work,he came home in a bad mood,got goaded and further belittled by his BIL,in front of his family,and lashed out.
Tomorrow,he will hear what is going to happen workwise,and today he will be concerned.
Please look after yourself and your DC.
And I hope your brother makes a great recovery.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 02/08/2012 10:57

I 100% stand by my suggestion of a loan if that's what it takes to compensate for the brother and his GFs financial loss and to get the db the physio he needs.

If the OP ends up missing out because of that then that's the DHs fault. Maybe it's something she needs to take into consideration while she decides whether to stay with her husband or not. She might be better off claiming single parent benefits.

It is not acceptable to cause that level of damage to other peoples lives and then say 'sorry, I'm a bit skint at the moment so you will just have to put up with minimum treatment for your injury and your GF will just have to put up with working extra hours all over her Summer'.

Even if the DH offered something it would be better than nothing. The brother can turn down the offer if he feels it would be too detrimental to his nieces, but there has to be an offer from the dh.

I can't see how anyone can believe that the husband cares about what he has done or is sorry if he isn't at least trying to pay the db and his GF.

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Lucyellensmum99 · 02/08/2012 11:14

its difficult to wade through to bunfight.

I really hope the OP is OK and that things get worked out one way or another.

I don't think they should be taking out a loan to pay back the brother actually, i think they should be helping out everyway they can, but not getting into debt. What is that going to achieve for the OP? Im sure her brother wouldnt want that!

I dont know the full details, because there is too much bickering on this thread to wade through.

The DH was out of order, im not sure id forgive my DP for doing such a thing but i cant pass comment because i know he woudnt do it, he just wouldn't. Unless of course he was having a breakdown............

Lucyellensmum99 · 02/08/2012 11:15

the bunfight, not to bunfight!!!!

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 02/08/2012 11:19

He's not helping out at all though is he. He coudk have offered to drive the DB back to his uni town so the GF didnt have to soend all that money on petrol but he didn't even do that!

Lucyellensmum99 · 02/08/2012 11:22

well as i said outraged, i haven't been able to wade through all the posts but yes, you are right he should have offered that or paid the cost of it. Maybe he doesn't want to face him and i should imagine the brother probably doens't want to see him either, so he should have paid the price of the petrol at least, yes. Such a horrible situation for the OP to be in.

Noqontrol · 02/08/2012 11:24

Yeah gotta agree with that one outraged. Absolutely.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 02/08/2012 11:26

It is really horrible for poor OP, I think the biggest worry (apart from the injury) is that if she handles it badly now her family will be less inclined to support her in the future if she needs them. They could take the attitude that she made her bed and now has to lie in it iyswim.

Lucyellensmum99 · 02/08/2012 11:30

It would be a poor show if they did that though tbh.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 02/08/2012 11:39

Yes, it would. But depending on the OPs reaction to the situation now, it might not be that different. You can't expect support from family if you're not prepare to give it, and no matter how hard this is for OP, the person that deserves the most support at the moment is her brother. If she chooses to support her husband, she can't really complain if in the future her family support her brother over her.

differentnameforthis · 02/08/2012 12:08

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos Shall we give op's dh & brother a chance to talk first, because last I read dh had tried to make contact but the brother wasn't answering! So it is a bit presumptuous to say he isn't helping/prepared to help. Hmm

And perhaps he didn't drive him back to Uni as he was at work, trying to hold onto his job! Perhaps he is planning to reimburse? I know as much as you because OP hasn't posted for a while, but I am managing to not tell op & her dh what to do!

Lucyellensmum99 · 02/08/2012 12:18

As far as i have read the brother is being really good about it.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 02/08/2012 12:20

Maybe, but I would have thought that OP would have said something about the husbands plans when she said that he had apologised and understood.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm saying what I would expect if I were in the situation. That's one of the things people do in conversations.