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Man screaming at and rough-handling boy on way to school this morn - WIBU to call school?

242 replies

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:18

I was getting the baby up this morning and her window was open. I heard a guy screaming at a young lad, perhaps about 6 yr's old. He was in his face shouting "just apologise to me, all you have to o is say I'm sorry Sam" so it wasn't his dad. Then he grabbed him by the front of his jacket and lifted him up in front of his face and continued shouting in his face - he also was still smoking with the ciggie hanging from his mouth.

At this point out of my window I shouted at him to stop. He just walked on, but I could hear him continuing to shout but couldn't make it out - he had a proper thick scottish accent (we don't live in Scotland).

I've heard this guy shouting before recently only. Should also mention he was walking with others Inc I think the child's mother. And there were people at the bus stop watching this whole thing. Had I been able, ie not getting a child up, and waiting for the toddler to have his morning poo (he thinks he can wipe his own bum, he can't) I'd have done more.

I think I know the school. I bet they're known to ss. Or I could wait until Monday and follow them to school if dh wouldn't mind getting into work late so i could a- mind the child or b- say to the school admin 'look that family there.

Typos - sorry on tablet.

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Rubirosa · 29/06/2012 09:20

I'd call the school.

WorraLiberty · 29/06/2012 09:21

I know you mean well, but what are the school supposed to do about it?

MammaTJ · 29/06/2012 09:24

The school may well know there are issues in the family. The family may already have SS involvement.

They may have no idea!

A call to the school will help this little boy. Do it.

SoldeInvierno · 29/06/2012 09:25

I would at least call the school. If they are aware that something strange is going on in the family, they will appreciate the information and know how to handle it.

Rubirosa · 29/06/2012 09:25

The family may already be known to them Worra.

CoffeeDog · 29/06/2012 09:25

DH was walking DD home from school last week and overheard a mum talking to her reception child a very small little girl.... she said next time you see her just walk up to her and punch her in the face really hard... and make sure she goes down Shock. Dh said oh thats a lovley thing to say, so the mum offered him a fight , sadley he was comming up to our house and had to decline ;)

Sadly I doubt there is much the school can do - some people just are not fit to have children.

ThatllDoPig · 29/06/2012 09:26

Poor little boy. It is so distressing to witness that kind of thing, makes me go cold. It can't possibly do any harm to alert the school to what you have seen. They can make sure the boy knows that there are adults who care about him, keep a special eye on him today. I would do it.

squeakytoy · 29/06/2012 09:26

It is not possible to have a cigarette in your mouth and SHOUT at the same time...

MulberryMoon · 29/06/2012 09:26

I'd give the school a call. Shouting is something most parents can be driven to at some point, but shouting in a child's face is abusive IMO.

PenisVanLesbian · 29/06/2012 09:28

"I bet they're known to SS"

Really? You seem to have no evidence to suggest this is true. Hmm

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:29

Yes that's what I thought. I'd go straight to ss if i had more info. But if i went to the school, I know this man's name, that he isn't the boy's father, can describe the mother - she has strange hair the. They'd get who I was talking about. If they're known to ss this will only add to their file, more evidence. Also, I'm not afraid and wouldn't be doing this anonymously.

How I wsh I was able to get out to them. Pick on someone not quite his own size and quite pregnant, but someone able to take him on.

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RillaBlythe · 29/06/2012 09:29

Oh squeakytoy, don't spoil a good bit of outrage.

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:31

I wouldn't have thought so either squeaky toy - but it's what I witnessed less than an hour ago.

But thanks for trying to pick holes in my op. Would you like me to swear on oath before posting? I'm not telling lies.

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cfc · 29/06/2012 09:33

And no, dick van dyke, I have n evidence. Which is why I said "I bet" and not "I know".

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lisaro · 29/06/2012 09:33

It's ridiculous to either guess or infer that they will be known to social services. Also (I've never smoked but do have a pen chewing habit) as someone unthread said- it would be impossible to smoke and shout.

SoupDragon · 29/06/2012 09:34

It is possible BTW.

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:34

And if you're not outraged at a boy being verbally abused and no one standing up for him but me, then shame on you.

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DanyTargaryen · 29/06/2012 09:34

You never saw my stepdad shouting squeaky, trust me its possible.

TheEnthusiasticTroll · 29/06/2012 09:34

"It is not possible to have a cigarette in your mouth and SHOUT at the same time..."

My horrific abusive drunken father used do it all the time.

Cassettetapeandpencil · 29/06/2012 09:35

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squeakytoy · 29/06/2012 09:35

I smoke, so I know it is not possible, thats all. :)

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:36

I'm not lying, I'm not embellishing, it's what he did.

So, ciggarette in mouth aside, general consensus is I ought to go to the school?

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squeakytoy · 29/06/2012 09:36

You can talk, out of the side of your mouth, but you cant shout.

cfc · 29/06/2012 09:37

Not possible for you. Possible forthis man.

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TheEnthusiasticTroll · 29/06/2012 09:38

you personaly may not be able to shout with a cigarette in your mouth does not mean that rule applies to everyone.

I can tell you it is possible. experienced and witnessed it pretty much daily daily as a child.