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This is what a 15 year old has just posted on face book to my 76 year old MIL

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RabidAnchovy · 26/05/2012 20:29

I HAVE TOLD THE SCHOOL, I AM GOING TO SPEAK TO HIS MOTHER AND i THINK MIL SHOULD CTELL THE POLICE.

AIBU to think what a vile excuse for a child

If you're loving your pension keep your mouth shut. your name reminds me of something .. AN ESCAPED OLD PEOPLE'S HOME OLD WOMAN WHO HAS MADE A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT THOUGHT SHE'D DO THE OLD EXPERIENCED LIFE LIVER THING AND TRY BE FUNNY WHO HAS A ALBUM CALLED 'My eye' HAS SAGGY OLD TITS HASN'T HAD SEX SINCE THE POPE WAS ALIVE.
shut up you old bag, I'd put my dick in your arse and fuck you till you love me

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ellybett · 31/05/2012 17:43

^^What giraffe said.

The assumption that by involving the police you are therefore condemning the 15 yo to a criminal conviction is incredibly naive. I work for the police and in all honesty I know of no officer that will willingly go down that route if a more suitable option of restorative justice is appropriate, should the victim also be in agreement with this, which the OP is. Of course, if this is the latest in a long line of similar vile behaviour then it is possible that something more formal may be implemented which is absolutely as it should be, as then he would be under the umbrella of the youth offending team who are best placed to educate him even within a criminalisation process.

A 5 year old kicked my fence in the other week. I didn't know he was 5 at the time although I knew he was clearly young. I had no hesitation in calling the police as why should I let those actions stand unchallenged. If he is allowed to kick my fence in with no repercussions then what will he do next? As an adult, I have a responsibility to him to challenge and bring him to the attention of people that will work in his best interest to help his understanding of his actions. I haven't criminalised him and I wouldn't hesitate to call the police the next time a child commits a criminal offence against me.

hellymelociraptor · 31/05/2012 17:50

I don't really think 15 is a "child" if they are threatening rape. A gang of "children" raped a tourist right by where I was living some years ago in London. Sadly there was a lot fo noise from a nearby club and we didn't hear the attack (we did hear others and help). Teenage boys threatening rape are not the same as younger children shouting insults. It has to be taken seriously, and I agree that this will not be a first for him, this sort of sexually threatening attitude is dangerous in a young man, it might only take a gang situation like the above for him to actually act it out.

OhNoMyFanjo · 31/05/2012 18:16

Any threat seems worse when made be someone who could carry it out.

bruffin · 31/05/2012 18:57

The amygdala is fully formed in teenagers, they are using it while their frontal lobes are retired. It's because they are using the amygdala that they can't recognize social cues or have an sense of omnipresence, but it still not an excuse for the behavior of the boy in op.
Have a 16 yr old boy and he would be dead if he threatened a lady like that.

bruffin · 31/05/2012 18:58

That should say rewired not retired.
Forgive any other sps please

MmeLindor. · 31/05/2012 19:08

Love that Novak is throwing big words about without actually knowing what she is talking about.

I have no idea what the amydglada is, and therefore will let others such as bruffin put you right.

A little knowledge goes a very long way it seems.

Immaturity does not cover being offensive and abusive to an elderly woman.

ToothbrushThief · 01/06/2012 07:10

I know what the amygdala is but would never drag it into a thread to explain why 15 year old boys should be allowed to run riot and threaten rape. Overkill? Desperation? Lost perspective?

Glad Bruffin could at least set facts straight since it has been brought in.

Any update OP?

bruffin · 01/06/2012 09:01

I didn't mean to use the word omnipresent, I meant immortality Blush

RabidAnchovy · 02/06/2012 10:31

UPDATE

Lovely police lady called me to say the boy and his mother were meant to meet with her yesterday but because there was a levers BBQ at the school they did not go Hmm If it were my son he would not have been going to any bloody BBQ. However she has said she will be seeing them next Friday and if he does not keep the appointment he will be arrested.

Will update what happens if anyone still interested)

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ToothbrushThief · 02/06/2012 10:37

I'm interested. He has a choice here. The result is in his hands.

OhNoMyFanjo · 02/06/2012 10:38

Shock his mum is obviously taking it seriously not

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 02/06/2012 11:00

A leavers barbecue my arse. That's dreadful.

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 02/06/2012 11:00

Does she know what he said?

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 02/06/2012 11:05

That's a good question. The mother might not realise quite how revolting his post was. Still no excuse though.

perplexedpirate · 02/06/2012 11:15

Well done for taking this to the authorities.loads of shit gets put on facebook and people ought to be held accountable. Impressed with the police too for taking it seriously.
I'm a bit Confused about posts upthread calling the boy a scab though. It what way is he a scab? Have I missed something?

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 02/06/2012 11:18

No needing to see the police should be clue enough he's done something pretty bad. Maybe he's told her some bullshit though? God I'd be beyond horrified if it was my ds. He would be grounded for the rest of his natural.

bigjoeent · 02/06/2012 11:52

Well I think we can see where he gets his behaviour from. Beyond disgusting that a BBQ is more important than seeing the police.

AGiraffeUnderTheFloorBoards · 02/06/2012 12:09

Am Shock at the mother allowing him to go to BBQ. Whether it clashed with the police chat or not I'd have cancelled all fun times and privileges. Either she has no control over him or she doesn't think it's that bad - either way she's teaching him he doesn't need to respect the police or women. Wow.

Did the headmaster come back to you after the chat.

LapisBlue · 02/06/2012 12:40

OP - I'm so glad that the police are taking this seriously.

Whether the 15 year old's Mum is doing the same thing, may be another matter. If I had a son who had done this I would be mortified beyond belief.

Someone touched on this earlier - the reasons behind why a 15 year old boy had posted such revolting words on FB. Well, in my opinion the answer is fairly simple: on-line pornography.

Accessed easily and mostly free, there are images and words out there which degrade and dehumanise women to a degree that I'm not sure we totally understand in terms of the short, medium and long-term effects on young people in this country.

Only recently, a 12 year old boy raped a 9 year old as he "wanted to do what adults do".

I'm 48 and there is simply no way that when I was 15, a boy my age would have made such vile, "porno" comments towards a lady in her mid seventies on a public forum, should such a thing have existed if you know what I mean. Porn was accessed by shifty-looking blokes; fifteen year olds would have needed a great deal of courage to ask for one of "those" magazines. Now - it's everywhere, not even managed and blocked by too many parents.

Boys are VERY sensitive to sexual images and the sooner we realise this, the better.

We are sitting on a time-bomb.

OP, I hope that your MIL is OK. This situation is beyond disgusting and I hope the Police scare the bejeesus out of this horrible little article. Yuck.

OhNoMyFanjo · 02/06/2012 13:11

Lapis - that's the story I linked too.

ToothbrushThief · 02/06/2012 13:29

Agree Lapis. Too many people are complacent. It is a time bomb. I fear for my DD

RabidAnchovy · 02/06/2012 13:38

As far as I am aware (from what the police woman told me yesterday) the mother has been told the content of the comments, the boy has admitted that he and his friend put them on FB and the police woman has said she will also be talking to the friend and his parents.

There was a leavers BBQ as DS1 was attending it. But if he had been due to go to see the police you can bet your sweet backside I would have had him down the police station with bells on
The boy is now away with his mother till next week.
MIL is ok, I have spoken to her in the week, also DS1 will be speaking to her tomorrow as it is his 16th Smile
Thank you all for your comments and support, I will keep you updated.

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TidyDancer · 02/06/2012 13:49

I think the leavers BBQ situation says just about all you need to know about how seriously the mother is taking this. Her son knows the lack of consequences with an irresponsible mother like the one he has.

If you needed it, and I'm sure you didn't, this is reassurance that you did the right thing in calling in the police. If the mother is not going to take her son to task over this, the police clearly need to.

SmellyFartado · 02/06/2012 17:52

I've been watching this thread from the start and most of the sentiments I would have shared have already been posted hence only coming into the forum so late. I am however absolutely appalled (and therefore compelled to write) knowing that a school BBQ has taken precedence to that boy's family rather than a visit to the police station to clear up whatever matter he had caused.

The fact that the other mother was shown the content of her son's facebook posting and still elected to let him continue with a frivolity such as a bloody BBQ rather than facing up to the consequences of his actions sums up just how moronically stupid and utterly ignorant she/his family really are!! If my children were ever involved in something requiring police intervention, even if just for a stern chat, you can bet your arse that that would the the first and only time in their lives that they would ever make such a mistake.

You could view this and have pity for the parent/s as in not intervening now, they are not giving this child any sort of moral compass in life and his clear arrogance that he can now - and probably always has - got away with anything will have far, far wider repercussions in the future, not that his family will give a damn either way by the sounds of it. The boy also will not get anywhere in life with the bad attitude and lack of respect he clearly has for those around him - life/karma will teach him that lesson very quickly if his stinking attitude continues into university, trying to find and keep a job, relationships, etc...

Rabid, you have absolutely done the right thing in bringing this to the police's and school's attention and I would have done exactly the same as you if not pushed it further with the police to press charges to teach this little shit the lesson on decency and respect he clearly deserves and has been lacking from his life thus far.

I hope your MIL is not too traumatised by this episode and perhaps can take heart from the 400+ messages this thread has provoked in shock and disgust at what this boy has done

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