AIBU to stop buyng The Independant because of this ad?

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The one from Fathers4Justice, where they accuse MN of:

"carrying abusive and distressing anti-male content which promotes gender hatred against men and boys"
and, apparently, labels "men and boys as rapist, peados and wife beaters."

The ad has a lovely picture of a sad little boy with words like "rioter" and "homeless" and "sperm bank" written on his skin.

I am confused, as I have never come across a thread on here where people routinely call men paedophiles and rapists. In fact, usually, if someone implies that a man being left alone with a child is dodgy, posters will pile in and say "God, don't you know not all men are paedos.?"

As I understand it, this is a forum for discussion, not a political movement with a manifesto. There are many and varied opinions on MN, and the minute one opinion is aired, another will be along to refute it.

Or should I just laugh at F4J? The ad is quite gruesomely funny.

Yes. A huge amount of girls are missing. Maybe millions, and of course, this is horrific, as I have already stated.

My argument isn't about the horrors that happen.

I am stating that statistics are not facts. Any statistic. That is all.

I have not forgotton that you asked me for comparable events. I am chosing to not go down that line, purely because I have not researched it.

We don't know exactly how many jews were killed, the same as we don't know how many girls are missing.

This is not the same as implying that it doesn't happen, which is what people are trying to say.

Do you know, I just cannot read the bile on the FB pages anymore, it's making my head hurt.

And I seriously doubt sigmund will be be able to come back with any intelligent answer to nyac's question.

Bloody hell SGM.

My goodness, crosspost but I was right!

Do organisations who claim to care about children, think that it will be good for children to have their mothers shot?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

"I have not forgotton that you asked me for comparable events. I am chosing to not go down that line, purely because I have not researched it. "

Hahahahahahahahhahahahhahaha good one

Look forward to hearing back from you when you have concluded your research. And remember, you are not allowed to use statistics anywhere in your findings.

Do you know why you can't produce any SF. Because there aren't any.

If you're so concerned about "misandry" you'd have clear examples and facts to back up your argument that it actually exists. You don't because it doesn't.

SGM that's appalling that F4J have said that about you. It doesn't appear to take much for them to start reaching for the violent threats.

Becoming clearer why courts might have denied them access....

I'm more concerned about misogyny right now TBH.

Bloody hell:

"KidsNeed Dad-Too No I said you should be shot.That is not a threat!
4 hours ago · Like"

They aren't exactly covering themselves in glory are they?

How is saying someone should be shot, not a threat?

'Look forward to hearing back from you when you have concluded your research. And remember, you are not allowed to use statistics anywhere in your findings'

That's a deal, providing you no longer use any.

Well that's good SF. Because misgoyny and its results are real and cause enormous harm and damage to women and girls, unlike misandry which is an MRA fantasy.

You missed the part about SGM being the leader of the KKK.

KidsNeedDads said that, not SGM (sorry, I have ds in one ear)

Misandry is NOT an MRA fantasy. Misandry being an MRA fantasy is your fantasy. Anyway, I must put my boys to bed.

Any examples of it yet Sigmunde? You mentioned appalling harm that men suffer because of it. Let's hear all about this massive harm that "misandrist" women commit against men. Feel free to use statisitics too, although they'd need to be from reputable sources e.g. not Angry Harry.

I dismiss those figures, stewie, on the basis that there may have been some rounding.

SF either way is fine.

Show me where men are being violently mistreated by women, en masse, due to their sex, and with the support of the legal system.

'Any examples of it yet Sigmunde? You mentioned appalling harm that men suffer because of it. Let's hear all about this massive harm that "misandrist" women commit against men. Feel free to use statisitics too, although they'd need to be from reputable sources e.g. not Angry Harry.'

Do I need to mention RadFemHub Nyac. I'm sure you're aware of the stuff they've been saying, when you say that misandry doesn't exist. I'm quite happy to bring a few of their quotes to the table.

As for the rest. Another time.

Are these quotes you say you have resulting in the death and violation of thousands / millions of boys and men?

Words aren't appalling harm Sigmunde.

Are you seriously arguing that they are?

I'm talking about rape, assault, murder, infanticide, child abuse, female genital mutilation, forced pregnancy - and you're talking about what? A blog which maybe 200 people read? And that's supposed to be an example of appalling harm to men. I can see why you're so against "misandry".

'Show me where men are being violently mistreated by women, en masse, due to their sex, and with the support of the legal system.'

AFAIK, there is no equivalent for males, if you're talking about femicide, mass rapes in other countries, no.

I'm saying Nyac, misandry exists. If words aren't appalling harm, then why are so many women being advised to leave their husbands and uproot their childen due to emotional abuse?

Maybe 200? Can you show me how you know exactly how many people use RadFemHub?