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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:48

Trust me, unless you have a very sick mind...the reality will be much worse.

PandaWatch · 15/03/2012 15:48

Envy at Trinity

I wanted to give my first Biscuit and got all the way to page 3, thinking I would finally get the chance, and you beat me to it :(

I REEEEEAAAAALLLY want to google dragon butter and blue waffle - can someone give me a censored version of what to expect?

I too am disappointed I didn't do a "PAY ME ATTENTION!!!" opening thread. I'm still pretty much a n00b but not n00b enough anymore I fear. Gah!

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 15:48

Oh my god, is that Typecast thing ever going to die? I apologized, we moved on.

Why can't everyone else?

Although, it does still get me hits on my blog...

GhastlyBespoke · 15/03/2012 15:48

Don't know if I really want an answer but

What. Are. You. On. About?

Do YOU even know any more or has the subject lost all meaning? Like if you say Cabbages too many times?

You are kicking the arse out of this subject now.

Nyac · 15/03/2012 15:49

Where's the TA DA thread.

Who turns up on Mumsnet saying "TA DA". I thought most people sidled in quietly.

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:49

Tee got an absolute pasting.

And all she did was kind of go "Huh? Who the fuck ARE you?" Not unreasonable when someone rocks up going "TADA!! FINALLY!!! I HAVE ARRIVED!"

ChaoticAngel · 15/03/2012 15:49

Can someone link me to this blog?

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:49

x posted with Tee.

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 15:50

Honestly, Shirley, it's gotten to the point of humour now.

And I do still get hits on my blog from that thread!

Stratters · 15/03/2012 15:51

Link, link, link, link.

ChaoticAngel · 15/03/2012 15:51

I thought most people sidled in quietly.

I did. Maybe that's where I went wrong ConfusedGrin

Debeez · 15/03/2012 15:52

I'm new to Mumsnet. Loving it. I like that people speak their minds and are honest about how they feel. I didn't like the other forums, too much false hunny and pfb up till the kids are 39 attitudes for my liking.

I've not seen any bullying so far. I've offered a biscuit and been offered a grip in return. Wasn't personal, I'm sure if I met that person in real life we would have a good lively debate in the same way to each others faces with a few giggles and grimaces.

I also googled Dragon Butter and now I don't feel nice.

PandaWatch · 15/03/2012 15:52

I googled them.

Oh.

[traumatised emoticon]

Evilclown · 15/03/2012 15:52

For the love of all that is mumsnet, will someone please link.

LauraShigihara · 15/03/2012 15:53

I'm a bit stumped at this. Possibly because I can't struggle through all that opening post.

Is the OP the child in the story? Does she have a blog? WILL SOMEONE PLEASE LINK SO I CAN JUDGE?

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:53

It was nasty at the time though - I think I was poorly and so didn't get involved...or I might have been on a flounce.

Either way, GAWD. Grin

ChaoticAngel · 15/03/2012 15:53
Grin

Did you get the picture for blue waffle?

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:53

ahahahha

SaraSidle · 15/03/2012 15:54

Where is op???

mojitomania · 15/03/2012 15:54

Like on all public forums you get the good the bad and the ugly Grin

PandaWatch · 15/03/2012 15:54

What - someone seriously used the words "ta da! I have arrived"?!

Jins · 15/03/2012 15:54

Found it.

Funny as...

GhastlyBespoke · 15/03/2012 15:55

Read like this Shock "wha...?"

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 15:55

I would link but I hid the thread about 2 days in and refused to re-engage. It's under Bloggers. Go search for it.

Honestly, it's old news. The players are past it. Let it die.

bobbledunk · 15/03/2012 15:56

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