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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

527 replies

Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
Stratters · 15/03/2012 15:30
lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:31

No stratters I don't

Hullygully · 15/03/2012 15:31

I AGREE!!

COME ON YOU BULLIES! GET YOUR DUKES UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON YOU BULLIES

WorraLiberty · 15/03/2012 15:32

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catgirl1976 · 15/03/2012 15:33

Hurrah and huzzah :)

lilbitneurotic · 15/03/2012 15:33

How many of these threads are there going to be?!

Sheesh

lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:33

Worra is right. You will start to annoy even the sweet reasonable people on here.

CailinDana · 15/03/2012 15:33

Aw OP I think you need to get a life.

Sorry.

Stratters · 15/03/2012 15:33

Or you could blog instead? < hopeful helpful>

hopkin · 15/03/2012 15:34

OP

porcamiseria · 15/03/2012 15:34

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WorraLiberty · 15/03/2012 15:34

I've never seen my name in the same sentence as 'sweet' and 'reasonable' before Shock

swallowedAfly · 15/03/2012 15:35

i hope her blog isn't written in the same jolly talking to children bullshit style.

desperately trying to resist googling blue waffle here.

another diff that hasn't pointed out is that in the schoolyard analogy the person is a CHILD!

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 15:35

Come on Hullygully, i will start this bunfight!! cupcakes locked and loaded!!

lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:35

And although some sneer at netmums, most just say that different forums suit different people. I like it here, but maybe you would like netmums better?

TrinityRhino · 15/03/2012 15:35

Biscuit my first ever.....

lambethlil · 15/03/2012 15:35

?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

Please please someone PM a link to the original. It cannot be any funnier.

Lulumama · 15/03/2012 15:36

I'd like to see examples of real bullying from the OP

i.e sustained personal attacks on the same person , day after day after day after day.

then we'll talk about bullying on Mumsnet

and I remember that ill fated bloggers post. It was terrifyingly naive and misjudged, why drag it up to (mis)prove a point?

TrinityRhino · 15/03/2012 15:36

I agree with Lesley, off you pop to net bums mums

lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:36

Sorry worra Blush

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:36

HAHAHA lambethlil. I think it got deleted in the end...

Fillybuster · 15/03/2012 15:37

Can somebody please tell me what blue waffle is? Please?

I'm at work and I just know that googling it will set off the 'HR Inappropriate Web Use' claxons....but I need to know....

lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:37

swallowedafly - Go on google it. You know you want to. Grin

PurplePidjin · 15/03/2012 15:38

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/arts_and_crafts/1412555-A-Blanket-for-WubblyBubblys-family-knitters-crocheters-and-donors-sign-up-here

One of 11 that I've been involved with over the past year

hopkin · 15/03/2012 15:38

OP