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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
Maryz · 16/03/2012 18:39

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TinkerSailerSoldierSpy · 16/03/2012 19:00

There seem to be a lot of messages being deleted by mumsnet, have not read the whole thread through but it seems to be the ones that support the OP. Biased much?

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 19:13

Maryz! How could you! Surely you know by now based on what I already did, that I would click that link Shock

tinker, the deleted ones were mostly ones that told the op to fuck off!!

NicholasTeakozy · 16/03/2012 20:09

Not the case Tinker. The deleted ones were most definitely not supportive. They were the more abusive messages.

Calamity, did you not read the rest of the post? Dragon Butter and Blue Waffle are nothing compared to what I said not to Google.

NicholasTeakozy · 16/03/2012 20:10

Maryz, I'm willing to bet that link is TWC. :o

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 20:13

saggar - Yes the thread was deleted that I started. Rebecca from MNHQ came on it and said she knew it was a light hearted thread, but that others might just see the title and not realise. i said fair enough I thought it would be deleted. And then it went pooof!

But on the same thread Rebecca also said Maryz was luvvly and offered to fight me to defend her.

NorfolkNChance · 16/03/2012 20:13

TWC calls for industrial strength eye bleach

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:20

What is TWC, should I google that next??

NorfolkNChance · 16/03/2012 20:21

NEVER GOOGLE TWC, it will scar you for life LIFE I TELLS 'YA!

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 20:22

Oh calamity! , some people never learn. NEVER google anything mentioned on here. I haven't a clue what it means...but I know from bitter experience, it will not be good.

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:25

But what is it? I have to admit I tried but ony got boring stuff about the time warner company :( what did I do wrong?

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:27

Ooh and something about the Total War Centre :( Come on I won't be able to sleep unless I know!!

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:28

come on lesley hold my hand and we will look together!!

NicholasTeakozy · 16/03/2012 20:37

Terry Wogan's cock! :o

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 20:40

calamity...no...I refuse

Oh! Terry Wogan's Cock. Thats not a big deal...not like muntering. Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly want to see it. But I don't think it will traumatise me....will it??

Goawaybob · 16/03/2012 20:41

wtf is the thing with terry wogan's cock???? I'm disturbed

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:53

Mmm, I see what you mean but I think I am just numb now, I have been cheating on you ladies, with another thread where lovely MNrs were trying to get a poor newbie to google certain things, she only fell for a few, I tried them all!! Shock I now know about a dirty sanchez, a wolfbagger, Ice Docking, Angry Dragon and the Alabama hot pocket. Go on ladies, you know you want to!! Grin

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:54

Oh God in hell I don't mean tried like tried tried, I mean I googled them!!!!!!! ShockShock

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 20:55

You TRIED them calamity!!! Now I am shocked.

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 20:58

Fuckity fuck no lesley I tried googling them, I cant even have the lights on!!! Shock

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 21:00

Now you are just backtracking Hmm. You did really try them didn't you??
Grin

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 21:08

PLEEEEEEEEEASE believe me :( I am not a devient :( I only keep peas and chips in my freezer! Wink

LadyBeagleEyes · 16/03/2012 21:19

Getting off this thread a bit, because the other one has gone.
So has Maryz really won the most intelligent mumsnetter simply by saying So?
Really, I mean, really?
Right place, right time Maryz.
And you don't even have a cleaning certificate.
I've put it on this thread because I CBA starting another.
That is all.

TandB · 16/03/2012 21:33

In the name of arse, how many more of these threads will there be?

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 21:38

Now kungfu, which part of the thread do you mean? The op? The bunfight? The who can Google the worst thing or me being accused of being a deviant? Which I am not, just so we are clear on that point!