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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

527 replies

Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 15/03/2012 15:56

I'm actually cringing for the OP here

Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 15:56

What were you thinking!?! Never google anything suggested here [bitter experience] Grin

PandaWatch · 15/03/2012 15:56

Chaotic Angel - yes. And it's now burned into my retinas.

UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!

thebody · 15/03/2012 15:56

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by Mumsnet.

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 15:56

[shck] why o why am I so damn nosey, just googled dragon butter and blue waffle Blush

GhastlyBespoke · 15/03/2012 15:56

There was more to that post. Don't know where the fuck it went.

PosiePumblechook · 15/03/2012 15:57

Every internet forum has it's arseholes and bad days.

lesley33 · 15/03/2012 15:57

NEVER google anything suggested here!

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 15:57

ffs Shock see i can do it. pass the eye wash fuzzy

ChaoticAngel · 15/03/2012 15:57

Glad I'm not the only one Grin

I gave up trying to resist my curiosity years ago. I should be immune to these things by now.

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 15:58

Lemon Party

catgirl1976 · 15/03/2012 15:58

No one should announce themsleves with the words "Ta da...I'm finally here" unless accompanied with Jazz hands and a song

Ta Da.......I'm finally here!
It's so great to meet you
Let's give a big cheer

Some here may know me
And some they may not
A misjudged OP
Lets you know I'm a clot

Some people diss me
They can be so blunt
But if you don't know me
Don't call me a cunt

Would have gone much better for the OP

KnottyLocks · 15/03/2012 15:58

It's bloody Groundhog day.

bibbityisaporker · 15/03/2012 15:58

I've just read the thread. Mumsnet at its finest (and I mean that in the non-ironic sense of the word). Anyone still want a linky/?

Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 15:59
usualsuspect · 15/03/2012 15:59

(Throws bun) can't find pointy brackets on phone

PandaWatch · 15/03/2012 16:00

The worst thing is that I read the description and STILL clicked on the link for the picture! What's wrong with me?!

Unfortunately there is no eyewash that will work on one's mind's eye :(

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 16:00

oh angel, I thought I was a modern sort, you know nighty off lights on, I am Shock at the new things I learn here!

Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 16:00

Grin @ Catgirl

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 16:02

hahaha catgirl, you finall made it.

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 16:03

panda try Wine

BuntyCirds · 15/03/2012 16:03

this is what I think...

2shoes · 15/03/2012 16:03

wow we have a bloggers topic. never knew that.
so the op here has just lifted her ideas from her post there...Confused

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 16:03

That's the one bibbity. Grand, wasn't it?