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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

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TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:47

I googled blue waffle once.
Then someone tricked me into clicking on a trailer for the Human Centipede.

I'm still receiving counselling.

Anyway I've just been fecking mouse checking. Every night I am kept away by fecking mice/rats throwing a party above my head, so nearly every night I'm up there with a carrier bag collecting the dead bodies from the traps.
Tonight there are no dead bodies to collect but lots of poison has gone. That is good news. What is not good news is the fresh RAT poo.

Can I borrow someone's cat?

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:48

Oh and how do you do papier mache again? I've forgotten. Is it flour and water? Do you make it thick or runny?
Need to build an underground house with ds for next week.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:49

Have I killed the thread with my non-rudeness?

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:49

Bugger.

RhinosDontEatPancakes · 15/03/2012 19:49

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NorfolkNChance · 15/03/2012 19:49

Flour and water yes, really it needs to be slightly runnier than wall paper paste and lots of it, you need more than you think, newspaper soaks it up like bitch.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:51

Ah thanking you kindly Norfolk - see isn't this nice? Mumsnetters helping each other out.

Not a fuck or an arse to be seen anywhere!

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:52

course not roxyrobin You keep believing our lying git of a husband.

I did warn you angie Grin Grin Grin

Now, anyone familiar with the biffon bridge?? Hmm Wink

Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 19:55
TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:55

Oh the sausages were lovely thanks for asking, might get them again. I love a bit of pig's arse I do!
Gotta love you and leave you again, need to build underground house.
Shit and bollocks. They don't make homework easy do they?
It has to be an example of an eco-friendly house.
I might put a fresh rodent in there, to show how it's kind to nature and shit.

Talking of shits, you should have SEEN the corker I did earlier! Thought I was giving birth!

WasabiTillyMinto · 15/03/2012 19:55

I read the plot of the human centipede now I want that bit of my brain erasing....

NorfolkNChance · 15/03/2012 19:55

Is that like Strip Poker for over 65s?

PeppermintPasty · 15/03/2012 19:56

Thankyou calamity. I saved a special cupcake for you-the only one I haven't licked the chocolate off of with pink sparkles on Smile

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:57

Shock therhubarb

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:57

Aah, peppermint you are a love, wait there I will bring a Brew

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:58

If you are of a nervous disposition - DO NOT CLICK ON THIS

StrandedBear · 15/03/2012 19:59

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TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:59

It's not a photo of my poo btw, I saved that for facebook. Mind you I think facebook might be playing up, just after I posted that I noticed half my friends had disappeared?

ComposHat · 15/03/2012 20:01

I am not a mother, in fact I am not even female, (how I came across mumsnet is too tedious to go into here) but have found AIBU to be extremely supportive.

I had a situation late last year that hit me for six. I just couldn't see a way out and in desperation posted in AIBU. The response I got was overwhelming
By which I mean that people gave constructive honest advice, which made me examine a few uncomfortable truths and see the situation from multiple perspective.

It wasn't sickly pap like 'you are a special person, don't let anyone put you down' but actual clear headed advice. Some of it quite uncompromising. But it helped me drag myself drag myself out of the shitey situation I was in.

If I'd been offered meaningless platitudes, I'd still be in the depths of that misery.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 20:01

Ooh stranded, you saw my photo on facebook!

And you even captured the bit of red in the middle! I am flattered.

buttonmoon78 · 15/03/2012 20:01

I have just read page 1 and page 17.

I think I am in an alternate reality Confused

Has Mummle given up and gone to play with the nice children yet?

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 20:02

Oh er Compo, er hi and welcome! I was just educating these commoners on correct usage of the internet and Mumsnet. Glad to hear you found it supportive and helpful. Smile

Well timed post too, er, right in the middle of my poo exploits.
Sorry about that Blush

RoxyRobin · 15/03/2012 20:03

Now that's not the same size as my DH's!

A contender for the Turner Prize, I'd say, Stranded

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 20:04

Right, I can hear the kids telling dh that I told them they could eat all the fudge pieces for the cookies tomorrow so I have to go and bollock the little lying gits darlings.

Have fun.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 20:06