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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 20:07

My parting gift again

cocolepew · 15/03/2012 20:07

RHUBARB COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't use your wavy scissors on your hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ComposHat · 15/03/2012 20:07

That's alright a but of light and shade is always a good thing!

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 20:16

Do you mean the turder prize roxy*?? Grin yes I have regressed to a twelve year old!!

Stratters · 15/03/2012 20:17

God that is sooooo sweet.

NicholasTeakozy · 15/03/2012 20:33

<a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1272&bih=883&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=i2nnJyme0OuUOM:&imgrefurl=nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/SmallMammals/fact-nakedmolerat.cfm&docid=ocJ_prt8G6R_vM&imgurl=nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/SmallMammals/images/nmrinhand.jpg&w=240&h=180&ei=jVFiT-6PDMjAhAeEqqytCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=235&vpy=602&dur=1148&hovh=144&hovw=192&tx=111&ty=53&sig=117862353356067951463&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=192&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Je vois ton anteater et raise you un todger avec dents. {wink]:o

NicholasTeakozy · 15/03/2012 20:34

Naturellement, je meant Wink.

Blush
Stratters · 15/03/2012 20:44

Shit, that is ugly. Shock

Moominsarescary · 15/03/2012 20:50

What the actual fuck is that, it's nearly as bad as some of those handbag dogs

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 20:51

Just checked my blog stats. Thanks for the hits from that damn thread again!

Let it go people!

::Tee realizes the thread has moved on. But had to come back and say thank you anyway::

ShirleyKnot · 15/03/2012 20:54

Laughing at you Tee you cheeky bugger! Grin

StrandedBear · 15/03/2012 20:56

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Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 20:56
Grin
StrandedBear · 15/03/2012 20:56

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JustHecate · 15/03/2012 21:00

when did the official "message deleted by mumsnet" thingie get coloured in?

Sad

I used to have fun typing "message deleted by mumsnet" when someone had REALLY pissed me off.

I used to picture them torturing themselves trying to think what I could possibly have said that could have got deleted so quickly.

I was sure that nothing I could actually come up with could be as good as what they imagined.

Sad

Blush I have a petty, evil side.

JustHecate · 15/03/2012 21:00

oh - and I know that in reality, they won't give a shit. But this is my fantasy and I make the rules.

Tee2072 · 15/03/2012 21:02

Today, I think Hec. At least, I just noticed it today.

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 21:05

Grin stranded, you are brilliant!

EchoBitch · 15/03/2012 21:06

stranded Brilliant.

StrandedBear · 15/03/2012 21:07

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ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 15/03/2012 21:08

No, not today - at least 2 days ago.

cocolepew · 15/03/2012 21:09

Oh dear god those naked animals Shock

YuleingFanjo · 15/03/2012 21:12

Grin at stranded.

RoxyRobin · 15/03/2012 21:12

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Floggingmolly · 15/03/2012 21:14

Bloody hell Mummle, you again?. I've rarely encountered such a complete shit stirrer - you could probably start a fight in an empty room. If you are not feeling welcome anywhere, think about why? Little clue: it's not them, it's you.