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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

527 replies

Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
PeanutButterCupCake · 16/03/2012 09:50

Again?! Hmm

How many threads are you going to start about bullying and then never post again?

Why would you keep posting on a forum slagging off said forum when you obviously have a huge problem with it?

If you feel bullied, report or find a forum that suits you Biscuit

Fillybuster · 16/03/2012 10:12

I can't believe I've just lost 2 hours of work time my life to the original thread....Shock

Although it was worth it for the chicken puns Grin

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 10:15

Go on Filly....you know you want to Grin

Fillybuster · 16/03/2012 10:41

Waiting for a quiet moment at the weekend, away from work-based monitoring systems, dh and dcs....this may have to be vair vair late one night....

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 10:46

Actually Filly - don't. Seriously, you can't forget what you see or read that easily.

morethanpotatoprints · 16/03/2012 10:48

Eppa that is a good attitude as I noticed yesterday you had received very similar comments to me when you posted a completely innocent question and had your opinions slated, as I did. However, if some people are here for support or are not as strong willed as others I do think some posters can be downright nasty. But agree unless they are actively finding someone to intimidate it is not bullying

NicholasTeakozy · 16/03/2012 11:55

Seriously Filly, do not under any circumstances Google munting. Blue Waffle and Dragon Butter are not that nice, knowing that I know what munting means is making my skin crawl. It is honestly that bad.

Rhinosaurus · 16/03/2012 11:59

Blush trying to remember if I have called anyone a Munter in the past....

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 12:00

As long as your OP doesn't hear about thew ord you should be okay Grin

NorfolkNChance · 16/03/2012 12:41

Unlikely as she hasn't been back!

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 16:54

Aaag! Just Google munting Shock I thought I would have learnt my lesson after Googling dragon butter and blue waffle, ooh, and monkey face too!

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 16:55

oh Calamity! There, there...it was all just a dream

longtrainrunning · 16/03/2012 16:58

munting .. omg just googled it...

Jins · 16/03/2012 16:59

don't google egg fried rice either :)

Debsbear · 16/03/2012 17:01

try "tubgirl"!

Debsbear · 16/03/2012 17:02

on second thoughts it's teatime, better wait till later!

lesley33 · 16/03/2012 17:03

You should all have learned by now. NEVER google anything that people on mns tell you to. You will always regret it.

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 16/03/2012 17:10

Hey lesley, what happened to your thread this morning? Did is go poof? You naughty MNer

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 17:11

Thank you lesley, feel a little better. Will sit on hands for the rest of the night so I won't Google egg fried rice or tubgirl! I won't, I promise! Wink

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 17:21

Didn't sit on hands, please will someone hold my hair back for me? [vom emoticon]

Jins · 16/03/2012 17:22

You've got no self control have you?

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 17:26

I'm sorry Blush

longtrainrunning · 16/03/2012 17:33

oh god, now I have to delete the whole of the browser history; just in case anyone thinks I'm deffo wierd. Tubgirl -Faints off chair once more

NicholasTeakozy · 16/03/2012 18:02

Look, that serves you right. Did I, or did I not say do not Google Munting!

Rhino, a Munter is an ugly person, so you're ok there.

Calamityboo · 16/03/2012 18:38

Yes but only to filly, I thought it might have been ok for the rest of us! And debs, what were you thinking, DH says I am not allowed to play with you other Mums if this is what we get up 2!