to really not identify with the feminist boards on here, when i always thought I was a feminist

[DinahMoHum]

seems so joyless and anti sex.

I feel very conflicted now. I always thought feminism was about equality for women, which I dont believe we have, but it seems to re\lly be focusing on the wrong issues for me, and getting too much into dynamics of personal relationships, and peoples sexual preferences

im probably being unreasonable

Me personally, Dinah?

Because if not me personally, then maybe you need to look how you're coming across ... it's just as much your job as it is mine to worry about it. If you think feminism comes across wrong, muck in and change it.

All this talk about masturbation is getting me in the mood.

Oh

Wait.

BTW the feminist section on MN is positively fluffy huggy kittens compared to a lot of the more politicised feminist discussion spaces there are.

And these places are important because if we spend all day chatting about how we love porn and making jokes we won't achieve much will we?

And that is the problem I think - people aren't equating feminism with politics. Very odd.

But Dinah if you are a feminist and you are on Mumsnet then why not post in the feminism section about your thoughts on feminism and then you can come across how you want feminism on here to come across.

Damn - someone had already posted that in a more coherent way.

There are kittens?!

These better be real kittens, not the DoomKittens of CognitiveDissonance.

What's the feminist section on Netmums like?

'the feminist section on MN is positively fluffy huggy kittens compared to a lot of the more politicised feminist discussion spaces there are. '

I suppose one of the things that surprises people occasionally is that this is a very general site with a lot of different topics covered, including feminism, rather than a specialised feminist forum. So you are going to get people sticking their heads around the door that are not familiar with the arguments and specifics of feminist debate. Again, like the SN board.
Whereas if I went to WrongPlanet or AFF, I'd be expecting other posters to be debating particular issues at a different level.

Says the autocratic Emperor of all things. As if Ming the Merciless ever understood the concept of debate.

YABU. If you have a different feminist viewpoint you should post there. I don't identify with every feminist but it wouldn't stop me posting.

ming, I think if you read the feminism section you'd change your mind about pack mentality. Or maybe I missed the threads where we all link hands, agree unanimously with teh OP and skip off into the sunset after the third response to the thread ...

Oh goody-good - yet another thread moaning about the mean and howwid bullies that post in the feminism section.

Donyou think that the "mumsnet feminists" get together and plan things in advance?? Now that really really is paranoid!!!!!!

If you go on a feminist message board and say anti-feminist things then people are going to disagree with you. Isn't that the bottom line here? And the are certain things that are unequivocally anti- feminist. The are a lot of things that are up for discussion, but if you go on a feminist board and say, for example that women are asking for it if they go out in short skirts and are raped, or that domestic violence is excusable, or that lap dancing is empowering, or that women are genetically better able to care for children/do housework or any of a range of other opinions then you a going to get robustly disagreed with.

Oddly enough, no-one ever provides a concrete example of bullying from FWR, even though it happens all the time...allegedly.

Fair game is a charming turn of phrase isn't it? What a lovely way to see a group of people who are members of a chat board you choose to hang out in.

Fair game. Delightful

Hmm. See, if I want a fluffy bunny kittens type thread I go on chat. If I want a serious talk about dd I go on sn. If I want a joyless sexless thread I ( ok now I can't name any section without insulting posters there) talk to Dh my mother.

I've found the feminism board massively interesting, supportive and welcoming. It's the women who can't/don't want to see inequality who scare me.

You want Fluffy Bunny? I give you fluffy bunny

Just. one example of bullying. That's all I ask. just one!

B-b-but, surely, if we're proper girls, we shouldn't do anything 'robustly'? Are you thinking of 'stridently', perhaps?

Bloody hell, which end of the rabbit is that!

I've heard this theory before, that we must all be posting the same because we've agreed to all post at the same time with the same thing.

When i first joined mumsnet I didn't think much about my view that all men needed visual stimulation and that porn was no big deal, but the more i have read the more I have learned and I have changed my opinion largely because of what I have read here.

thank you

ive never seen another thread about it. Ive only been here a few weeks.
Seems im not in a particular minority then I guess.

Tbh though, I guess the feminist forum is exactly the right place for the more extreme views, even if it/they does/do put a lot of people off from both posting there and from publically identifying as a feminist in real life. What really makes me uncomfortable is when on unrelated forums, it feels like a gang of people with exactly the same radical viewpoints, descend on threads and make personal issues into feminist issues and push the agenda much much more than is necessary, and it ends up looking like certain posters personal issues are used to prove a point, and people are told to leave partners etc, or that their partners are mysogynistic etc, when really, its just a relationship