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to really not identify with the feminist boards on here, when i always thought I was a feminist

952 replies

DinahMoHum · 11/03/2012 11:03

seems so joyless and anti sex.

I feel very conflicted now. I always thought feminism was about equality for women, which I dont believe we have, but it seems to re\lly be focusing on the wrong issues for me, and getting too much into dynamics of personal relationships, and peoples sexual preferences

im probably being unreasonable

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ShirleyKnot · 11/03/2012 12:45

YYYYYYYYYY babyheave

One might wonder if certain posters shouldn't just STFU and stop whining about the nasty feminists.

One thing though, if a poster needs support , say they are suffering from DV or been raped for example, the Feminist area in the one place you can go and be believed, supported and helped without some fucknugget rolling onto the thread and telling you to suck your abused cock a bit more often to stop him smacking you about a bit. So.

Yeah. Fucking feminist bastards.

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 12:45

I really don't think people saying "most of the board and posters are good / interseting / thought provoking, but, like anywhere else, you do get the odd person who is inflexible / dogmatic" is a blanket attack. Far from it.

I think it would be dreadful if people started writing lists of other posters who they disliked or disagreed with.

JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 12:47

Yes, catgirl, it's so much better for you when you can just make rude comments about all the posters in the section? Thanks a bunch.

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 12:47

Catgirl that just makes it even worse - it is also a cowardly and dishonest way to go about attacking someone IMO.

nenevomito · 11/03/2012 12:48

there are several obvious culprits on the feminism boards

Why not report them to MNHQ if thats the case? Why post generalisations aboout the whole board instead - thats what I don't get.

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 12:49

Erm Jericho - I quite clearly did not make any rude comments about anyone, let alone the section as a whole. I am unsure why you would say that.

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 12:50

Beach - if I disagree with someone on a thread, I will let them know that I don't agree with them or find what they are saying offensive or whatever the case may be.

I am not going to list names of people I disagree with on a different thread which they are not even on. That wouldn't be "brave". That would be irrelevant and unpleasant.

JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 12:51

Oh, silly me catgirl. You wouldn't mind me calling you aggressive, unwilling to consider others' viewpoints, inflexible, or a 'bad apple'.

Great.

seeker · 11/03/2012 12:51

And I would rally like it if anyone who feels they had beennshouted down ornbullied or driven off a thread would actuall five concrete examples of where this actually happened. Because I've never seen it- I do suspect that people regard not being agreed with or being told that evything is a matter of opinion as being shouted down. NAME NAMES!!!!

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 12:52

Exactly babyheave - report these posters.

If they are as out of order as claimed they will be deleted, warned by MN and banned if they continue to behave so terribly.

Why start a bunfight in AIBU about them?

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 12:53

Jericho if we were having a debate about something and youthought that I would not mind you saying it to me at all.

If you didn't say it to me, but told other people that's what you thought about me on another thread I was't involved in I would be a bit Hmm

I was also very clear that inflexible posters are not specific to the FWR boards

Dustinthewind · 11/03/2012 12:54

'You wouldn't mind me calling you aggressive, unwilling to consider others' viewpoints, inflexible...'

Well, that's been said about me on threads all over the site, and on occasion by people I've inconvenienced in RL. But if I'm right, I don't really care.
Those SN flameproof knickers are a versatile apparel for all occasions I find.

HillyWallaby · 11/03/2012 12:55

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JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 12:55

'Jericho if we were having a debate about something and youthought that I would not mind you saying it to me at all.

If you didn't say it to me, but told other people that's what you thought about me on another thread I was't involved in I would be a bit hmm

I was also very clear that inflexible posters are not specific to the FWR boards'

So it's one rule for you, and another for the people you're insulting? You'd object to stuff being said on another thread about you ... but you happily did it further up this thread?

Nice.

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 12:56

Catgirl I'm not suggesting you name people behind their backs Hmm.

I'm suggesting you take it up with the people in question on the thread in question rather than join in tedious recurring bitchfests about a whole group of people.

DialsMavis · 11/03/2012 12:56

Personal attacks aside, when I have posted on those boards I have come away feeling unwelcome and made to feel stupid and like a silly little wifey. That isn't to say that the other people posting intended to make me feel like that, but that is how I have felt.

I wanted to start a thread the other day in there to discuss something I had witnessed but thought better of it, I have never felt like that about posting anywhere else on MN.

It must feel horrible to feel like you prolific posters on those boards are under constant attack but surely if that many posters feel unwelcome and belittled in that topic maybe you are not coming across as you are intending.

JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 12:59

See, I do find this quite sly and hurtful ... the process you're doing seems to be like this catgirl:

  1. Apply a string of personal insults to a group of people, on a thread referring to them but not started by them.

  2. Deny you would ever do such a thing a few posts later

  3. When called on it by someone capable of, ooh, scrolling up the thread, claim it's really ok because you didn't name names (but don't apologize for the lying denial).

It's the sneakiness I find really offensive.

StewieGriffinsMom · 11/03/2012 13:01

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catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 13:01

No - you have totally misunderstood my point. I am going to leave the thread as

a) I dont think you have any desire to reach an understanding with me

b) you have decided I am on a different "side" to you when I do not believe I am

c) you find my post stating that I find the FWR boards and posters great but that there are one or two posters I personally find to be inflexible a great and personal attack on you as well as being a great big blanket attack on the board overall - that was not my intention but I do not think I will achieve anything by trying to convince you otherwise

d) Several other posters now seem to take the same views listed above and I am now feeling a little singled out

e) I have no wish to partake in a bun fight

I think the FWR boards are great, very thought provoking with some very well informed posters. I think there are a few posters who are inflexible and aggressive and they can put me off a bit. That's my personal view. I am sorry it is so offensive and inflammatory to you.

I shall leave the thread to avoid further offence

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 13:02

Here we go with the vague 'they were horrible to me' accusations.
PMSL at reading about this is the AIBU section - I think I have only started a thread once in here and it wasn't the nicest experience I have had on MN. You don't see me bitching about it constantly ever since though. Nor do I make blanket anonymous personal attacks.

FilterCoffee · 11/03/2012 13:04

YANBU

JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 13:05

Ah, must be me being stupid and misunderstanding, I do tend to do that a lot, what with being over-intellectual and snobbish.

Can't really win, can I? Even when all I did was point out that you had posted some insults then denied doing so.

DinahMoHum · 11/03/2012 13:07

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Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 13:09

Ok, have I misunderstood?

In fact this thread is praising the FWR section saying how it is great, interesting, etc.

With the odd comment about how there are a couple of posters who can be a bit unfriendly.

Righto. Exactly like every other section of MN then. So why the recurring attacking threads then? Confused

Why the nasty personal comments about people's sex lives, how they choose to spend their time, how they are joyless bullies?

Confused You're not making sense folks.

JerichoStarQuilt · 11/03/2012 13:10

If you can do it better, Dinah, why not do it?

I guess what with being anti-sex we poor bastards have to get a bit of intellectual masturbation where we can, right?