to really not identify with the feminist boards on here, when i always thought I was a feminist

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seems so joyless and anti sex.

I feel very conflicted now. I always thought feminism was about equality for women, which I dont believe we have, but it seems to re\lly be focusing on the wrong issues for me, and getting too much into dynamics of personal relationships, and peoples sexual preferences

im probably being unreasonable

I'm off to complain on Amnesty's forums that they're not joyous enough about human rights abuses. Do you think I'll get short shrift? I'll tell them to model themselves on the Daily Mail's threads, which are definitely most joyous. Possibly unintentionally...

The state of mind not the miserable little girl. obviously.

oh, you'd bedder believe I'm joyless, PR

I also hate men passionately, and think sex is a dirty word

yup, that's me

I also have hairy legs, eschew face-painting make-up and have several fetching pairs of dungarees

Have feminists ever really worn dungarees? I look at them and think, "but how do you get them down without help, in order to use the toilet?"

Dungarees are the downside to potty-training.

DS has just outgrown his sized-for-a-2-year-old dungarees. [wails]
I love him in dungarees cos his trousers never bloomin' stay up, but dungarees do. However we are miles from potty training (19 months) and the dungarees I found for 3 year olds don't have poppers up the legs for easy nappy changes. So.... waaah! He was so cute in them!

ahem. I mean: I HATE ALL MEN! Obviously. and also: DOWN WITH FUN!

I used to wear dungarees. In the 80s. Over the top of my rubgy shirt and with wallabies on my feet. Set off my perm nicely.

I have pregnancy nausea so I am both joyless, and anti sex as this is what got me here. And as for fun! Pah to fun! I laugh in the face of fun. Well not laugh obviously. Sneer.

I had bright red dungarees. Very joyful they were.

Oh, that sucks. Could you find some with seams down the inside legs? Then you could rip the seams, and put poppers in.

If you are short on time, do you have exploitable elderly relatives?

Alice your description of your 80s wardrobe should have had a trigger warning.

Do you want me to tell you about the lurid jump suits and bat wing jumpers from the same era?

Oh I cried when my youngest grew out of his dungarees too

I remember my friends son getting accidentally whacked in the eye by the clasp on one of his dungaree straps and he said very solemnly "dungarees are dangerous"

I repeat this now "dungarees are dangerous".

You wore wallabies on your feet Alice????

Won't somebody think of the marsupials!!!!

And the menz, of course.

heee! I have neither exploitable elderly relatives or sewing skillz... actually DH has some great sewing skills but I think we've both putting making/altering baby clothes into the 'not worth my energy' category.

Dungarees are dangerous for both fashion and style. And why dungarees on pregnant women? Why dungarees when you need to wee ALL THE TIME?

I'm looking wistfully through La Redoute's toddler section. Such cute dungarees...

as DS is my PFB (more to follow! just as soon as we can afford it. Which had better be SOON) I can't tell if I'm doing what all mothers do when their babies stop being babies (waah! too soon!) of if part of this is that he genuinely is bigger than a lot of 3 year olds, so I keep being shocked (specially when I see him playing with other children) at how grown-up he looks.
Yesterday it was warm and sunny enough for a hat-with-brim and not a wooly hat. he's outgrown his floppy-brim sunhats from last year so went out wearing a light hoodie and a baseball cap. Honestly, he looked like he was about to go skateboarding or something. It made me so happy/sad all at once! WAAHH!

ooh dear, now this is totally off-topic. Sorry. Ahem. BAD MEN MAKE ME ANGRY!

i came back on here to post something serious godamit. now you've all gone and ruined it.

The answer to the dungaree/pregnant woman can only be answered thus:

The Patriarchy. Heh!

blackcurrants I'd categorise that under "fashion designer/shop buyer was very young"

These are the dungarees we need to start the revolution.

He's still a baby. I know he is, because mine are older and they say they're babies, not toddlers. Sorted!

Right: solutions to keeping trousers up.

1. A very padded reusable nappy, so the trousers just can't slip down.
2. Those trousers with adjustable elastic inside. I have some from H&M.

is that for kids or pregnant women?

dungarees serve the purpose of being big & baggy, BUT also staying up, for both sets of people.

Can I just pause to snigger at DIY cliteredectomies?

It depends whether you're laughing at my spelling, or not.

Aw shucks. You can laugh at my spelling, too.

kickassangel

I was thinking of toddlers at the time, but I think that you've alerted me to another market for these items.

I can't believe I actually fancied that ill-favoured bunch in the 80s.

Was it the dangerous dungarees that dazzled me?