to really not identify with the feminist boards on here, when i always thought I was a feminist

[DinahMoHum]

seems so joyless and anti sex.

I feel very conflicted now. I always thought feminism was about equality for women, which I dont believe we have, but it seems to re\lly be focusing on the wrong issues for me, and getting too much into dynamics of personal relationships, and peoples sexual preferences

im probably being unreasonable

Pushing an agenda? You mean equality and helping a woman unravel her true objection to a pretty vile act?

In a nutshell I think handbagCrab.

I did find the diversion in the middle about the right to personally attack other posters free speech, quite, um, illuminating.

So not a total waste of time. Helps keep the old spreadsheet up to date. (That was sarcasm BTW 'cos last time I posted this long running MN joke, folks get really upset and accused me of having a real spreadsheet. I admit I arfed.)

no i mean pushing an agenda, and pushing a woman to unravel YOUR objection to an act that is subjective, but id have to agree, id find it pretty horrid if it was my dp

Well whatever you think hun. You know best.

I think I would be broadly categorised as ?fun-fem? and I still call a bastard a bastard.

(In general life, I call digging implements, shovels, spades, or big spades. If it doubt, I consult a Homebase catalogue for precise terminology.)

Nope, not my objection. Why is it an agenda and not an understanding?

I'm not sure I understand what you have against equality.

I don't think everytime I see AF's posts oooo she's saying that as a Frother!!

im glad i started it. Its clarified things for me

What like don't break the rules and make empty unsubstantiated misplaced accusations that turn out to be untrue, dragging threads across threads, using someone's support threat to make a point and all that whilst having posters with an axe to grind line up to cheer you on?

My irony meter just broke.

no, those things were just a lucky bonus ;)

dinah how on earth can a thread such as this, based on something which doesn't actually exist clarify anything for anybody?

ah ah ah, that was a joke btw,

Time for a guidelines quote again I think.

"People will respect you if you change your mind, apologise or express regret for an earlier post, based on the contributions of others." StarlightMcKenzie

www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette

Dinah.

Let me get this right, you started a thread about a thread to insult women who had supported the OP, who's husband had used a prostitute, by telling her that it was wrong because you felt the more supportive thing to do would be to tell her 'it was okay'?

AS I HAVE SAID SEVERAL TIMES NOW It clarified for me that it wasnt actually the fem board that was annoying me, but a phenomen i have noticed froma certain group of people here who seem to flock together and push an agenda.

I have been told this isnt happening, and its my imaginination. other people have said they have noticed it too. Must be our group imagination.

Im glad ive got a bit of it off my chest as it was starting to really piss me off, and im hoping that "maybe" some people will think about how they respond in support threads and realise the difference between a support forum and a debate forum. Might happen, might not. I couldnt really expect to bring it up without ruffling a few feathers, but im glad its in this forum instead of the support one anyway

Did you mean to say 'feminist broads', Dinah?

No Posie, i didnt start this thread ABOUT that thread. It was just one instance of what im talking about, and I wasnt the one who named that thread.

I never said that using the prostitute was ok EVER. I also dontn think a lot of people on that thread were supportive. I thought there were actually very very few messages actually supporting her and trying to find out what SHE wanted to do.

"dinah how on earth can a thread such as this, based on something which doesn't actually exist clarify anything for anybody?"

Gaslighting

Just step away DinahMoHum. They cant help themselves. Rather pull you down than admit any culpability.

I'm awfully glad that you've got it off your chest! It can be annoying when you arrive somewhere new and find it's not to your liking, or that there are certain things you don't agree with. I don't agree that the best way to do that is to attack people and cause a big nasty scene in order to clarify something for you.

I don't agree either that people were agreeing that MN as a whole is too "feminist" actually, I think the complaints - both in the OP and in most of the thread were aimed squarely at the FWR BOARD. To change the golaposts at this point and then say "and others agree with me" is really not on TBH!

why is it not on to say that im not pissed off with the FWR board anymore?

Do you want me to keep arguing that i hate that board for any particular reason when I dont?

I didn't mean that od course! I am delighted that you have realised that the FWR board is great.

I am disagreeing that the support given on support forums around the board is being sullied by radical feminists.

I thought you'd shifted the focus onto the support boards now?

its not a fight, its a discussion, and many people here have helped clarify what my issue was. Thats a good thing. Noone was forced to read this or respond or "waste their time" and i started this thread purely about the way I was feeling.
we discussed it, it developed. Thats ok isnt it?

I think you probably knew that people would be upset at being called joyless and anti-sex though, didn't you? Anyway if you didn't realise that then it's a good thing to know for the future!

And you, of course, are perfectly entitled to start a thread about anything (within talk guidelines obviously!) but you must be prepared for disagreement.

i didnt call anyone that. I said the board in general felt that way.

just sayin

So posters got accused of trolling, using other people's distress for a political agenda, being aggressive, being joyless, being ant-sex, being unhappy and sad people in their personal lives, being the senders of hate mail, being extremists, being rude, being attacking and thoroughly unpleasant, etc.

But in fact it is all just a big mistake.

Never mind - the posters being attacked are radfems so they should just suck it up and STFU (god forbid that they report any of this stuff). They don't have feelings that count for shit, right?

Don't you people learn from these threads? On the last one the OP got banned and kept trying to come back - yet there were posters happy to egg the OP on. This one is a rule breaking shambles.

No doubt we will see the same cheerleaders on the next one though Result people.

Not really...as I said earlier "the board" is the posters who post on it.

also just sayin