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AIBU to think a 6 year old should not still be in a pram if they haven't got SN

211 replies

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 15:20

On a bus today with my newborn then a lady with a pram and a toddler who her oh was holding got on, i asked if she could fold it down so others could get on as he oh was sitting with the child at the back i was blanked.

Then another lady got on with a stick pram the child looked rather large to be in a pram so i asked how old the little boy was she said 6 Shock i then asked if he had sn she laughed and oh no he is not disabled he has a cough Shock.

then i was asked by the driver to put MY PRAM DOWN GURRRRRRR AS THEIR WERE now 3 parms on the bus

IF YOUR CHILD IS 6 AND HAS NO SPEICAL NEEDS AIBU TO THINK THEY SHOULD BE BLOODY WALKING not in a sodding stick pram were their feet are dragging on the floor because their to jeffing big for it

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hazeyjane · 13/03/2012 13:32

Then i'm afraid you are just a rude and thoughtless person.

I just pray that i never come into contact with someone like you.

Triggles · 13/03/2012 14:24

OP you obviously are not only rude, but feel pretty damn entitled as well.

Do you honestly think you're the only person that has a small baby? You know, we've ALL had to fold up the pushchair/pram with a new baby. And guess what? It's not that big a deal. Get over yourself.

oh... and it's none of your business what age the child is in the pushchair, and none of your business if they're even IN a pushchair....

god, I get so sick of people and their nasty judgemental attitudes

tallwivglasses · 13/03/2012 14:35

OP are you drunk?

Vickles · 13/03/2012 14:42

None of your business to ask someone else to fold their buggy down for 'other' people!!!

And - also, none of your business to ask how old the child was in the buggy! And then, to actually ask if this child had 'SN'.???

You are rude, and sticking your nose in other people's business!!!!

I cannot believe that the mother just laughed... You are lucky! If somebody has asked me if my very tall 3 year old was 'sn'... I think I would have wanted to ram you with my buggy!

Why are you cross? You are unfairly judging somebody - and you have no idea what is going on.

Please go out and get a life!

hathorinareddress · 13/03/2012 14:52

Rarely, if ever, in my life, have I been speechless.

I am on reading this thread.

How very DARE you ask someone if their child has SN you ignorant rude entitled judgy ... grrrr words fail me.

Have a Biscuit

No one, no one, no one should ever ever ever ask a parent that IN FRONT of the child.

I would have said no too if my SN son had been there.

You are unpleasant and rude.

People fold up prams with small babies, you are not the first woman in the world to ever get on a bus with a baby - get over yourself, or get a car so you don't have to share space with the rest of the world who don't do things in the way you would like to please you and suit your agenda.

As someone else said on another thread (I can't remember who or I would credit them)

This is a grip. Please go and get one.

jollyoldstnickschick · 13/03/2012 16:14

In my day you couldnt catch a bus with a baby in a pram you had to collapse the pram or Shock walk!!!

Rules as I understand it are .....first person on the bus with a buggy gets the space, entirely up to them if they choose to collapse the pram to let another pram pusher on - wheelchairs usually have priority over the buggy but then most people would whip a child out of the buggy so a wheelchair could fit on.

2shoes · 13/03/2012 16:19

if you asked me if my dd had sn. I would say no(then pmsl)
you are using the fact that the women didn't give you her childs medical history as an excuse to call her child lazy.

pumpkinsweetie · 13/03/2012 16:20

There was probably a reason to why he was in a pushchair, maybe he had adhd or a disability. Not being rude but if she was there 1st she shouldnt of had to fold her buggy for u anyway regardless of age of child! I have a 3.5 year old that uses a pram occasionally but i will fold if i have no shopping and the person is polite towards me.

TheBigJessie · 13/03/2012 17:36

Yes, lots of people have claimed it's laziness. However, not a single one has explained why it would be easier to take an undisabled six year old on the bus than in a pushchair.

No-one is doing it out of laziness!

I don't want to be mean to you. You're a new mother; sleep-deprived, and all the things that having a newborn entails. Trying to fold a pushchair while holding a newborn is bloody scary and difficult. I've been there and I remember it all.

But that was a few years' ago. Now I'm a proud mother of young children, who can walk, and do. Being able to just hop onto buses, without wondering whether I'll be able to get on the bus back, has given me a whole new lease of life. Circumstances would have to be pretty desperate for me to put a six year old back in a pushchair.

Think about your post. You're raging over a trip on the bus, a scant few months into the whole thing. How do you think you're going to feel about taking pushchairs on buses in a few years? Not good, I guarantee. That woman has been a parent for a good few years, too. Why would it have just been "laziness"?

TheBigJessie · 13/03/2012 17:48

Another thing: I do believe people can be lazy. Completely and utterly.

I myself am EXCEEDINGLY lazy. One of the ways in which I am lazy, is that I walk to the bus stop, with my twins, who are 2 1/2 years old, and catch the bus, and then we all sit on a seat.

By the way, I find your plan to give a child and their parent a "cussing" pretty bloody awful.

If you did it to me, I'd complain to the driver, and insist s/he called the police, if you didn't get off the bus.

flossiebella · 13/03/2012 21:28

OP the world doesn't owe you a favour. You cannot attempt justify your point by shouting down anyone who has disagreed with you or pointed out that you were at best misguided & at worst, downright rude to the other woman.

Prams on buses don't ever get any easier. Buy a sling. and some sort of gag for that mouth of yours before it gets you into trouble

stella1w · 13/03/2012 21:45

How about a code of conduct for buggies on buses?
Priority to be given to sleeping children, youngest first....
If your child is awake, and sleeping newborn gets on - then have decency to fold up.
And if your child isn't even in the buggy, then please stop taking up a valuable space with the unfolded buggy.

jollyoldstnickschick · 13/03/2012 22:02

Stella I thought thats vaguely how it was?

roughtyping · 13/03/2012 22:11

YABU and rude to ask. My sister had no 'special needs' but had Perthes disease around that age, before it was diagnosed my parents put her in a buggy as too painful for her to walk.

roughtyping · 13/03/2012 22:15

I would ask again and next time will I will be saying somthing at 6 a child should not be in a parm unless sn if they don't have sn they are going to get a cussing

All hail Queen of the Bus... She has spoken Hmm

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2shoes · 13/03/2012 22:31

why would a sleeping baby take priority over and older child.
surely it is easier to hold a baby than a toddler.
genuine question

tallwivglasses · 13/03/2012 22:37

What pretty much everyone else on this thread has said.

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tallwivglasses · 13/03/2012 22:59
Grin
TheBigJessie · 13/03/2012 23:47

The trouble with newborns is the floppy heads, and the utter terror that you will break them if you don't use two hands . Grin

Boomerwang · 14/03/2012 00:52

Wonder if the bus companies ought to get their heads out of the sand and make some kind of rule, shown clearly on the bus window? Might help with these issues.

rockinhippy · 14/03/2012 01:18

You are being way to judgey & VVU - gobsmacked anyone could be so rude as to ask a complete stranger if their child had SNHmm

none of your business - do you own the bus?? - no, then they paid a fare the same as you & therefore have the same rights to use bus in which ever way they so please, buggy for a 6 yr old included

I often use a 4 wheel shopping trolley & from your attitude here I would suspect I too would probably be the object of your wrath too if you weren't getting your own way over seating/buggy spaceHmm

MIssMarplesSideKick · 14/03/2012 01:27

It is not called a stick Pram, its a pushchair or buggy. A pram is a flat place for a small baby on wheels, a pushchair is a seated chair on wheels.

I never heard of a stick pram ever before!

Baby in empty pram would have got her attention alright!

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