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AIBU to think a 6 year old should not still be in a pram if they haven't got SN

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Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 15:20

On a bus today with my newborn then a lady with a pram and a toddler who her oh was holding got on, i asked if she could fold it down so others could get on as he oh was sitting with the child at the back i was blanked.

Then another lady got on with a stick pram the child looked rather large to be in a pram so i asked how old the little boy was she said 6 Shock i then asked if he had sn she laughed and oh no he is not disabled he has a cough Shock.

then i was asked by the driver to put MY PRAM DOWN GURRRRRRR AS THEIR WERE now 3 parms on the bus

IF YOUR CHILD IS 6 AND HAS NO SPEICAL NEEDS AIBU TO THINK THEY SHOULD BE BLOODY WALKING not in a sodding stick pram were their feet are dragging on the floor because their to jeffing big for it

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Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 15:51

because i with the newborn was the one who was asked to put my pram down whilst a empty pram stood and one with a 6 year old in it

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OTTMummA · 10/03/2012 15:51

I can't get over the fact you asked someone if their child has SN! Shock Confused.
Did you acutally ask someone that, or are you embellishing your version of events to convince us yanbu?

I find that really hard to believe.

birdsofshoreandsea · 10/03/2012 15:52

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Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 15:54

yes i bloody well did i had to stand with a pram folded at my feet with a newborn in my hands for 30 minutes all the while the lady with the big child looking at me and the lady with the empty pram pretending she couldn't hear me ask her to fold her pram down

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south345 · 10/03/2012 15:55

I think it was rude to ask if he has sn too, I would be offended if you asked me.

Maybe he has bad asthma and couldn't walk?!

TheFallenMadonna · 10/03/2012 15:56

The person to be cross with was the woman with the empty pushchair. Really, you shouldn't be putting strangers on the spot with questions about special needs. Your anger is really misplaced. Why is your thread about one woman, not the other?

ilovesooty · 10/03/2012 15:57

Well, perhaps you should have been more assertive towards the couple with the empty pram rather than being so unpardonably rude to other people.

birdsofshoreandsea · 10/03/2012 15:58

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HolyNoSheDittantBatman · 10/03/2012 15:58

Ilovedaintynuts you should have taken the 6 year old out and folded the buggy whilst on the bus. If his cough was so bad that he couldn't walk a few steps to sit down on a seat then you should have been at A&E not on the bus.

cornsilkidy · 10/03/2012 15:58

that must have been upsetting for you...I'd have given you my seat. It's a shame none of the other passengers helped out either. Maybe take a sling in future in case it happens again?
The lady with the 6 year old probably wouldn't have told you if her child had SN anyway, particularly within earshot of the child.

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 15:59

sorry but i think both were taking the piss

if you have a empty pram the fold it down
if your child so big their feet are dragging along the floor they are not disabled then they shouldn't be in a pram or at least get them out and fold it up when space gets tight

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Pandemoniaa · 10/03/2012 15:59

You do sound very confrontational OP. As it happens, I'd have thought it was much easier for you to be carrying a newborn than any of the other people you've accused of not needing a buggy. A little baby is much easier to hold than a toddler.

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 16:01

i did ask the driver why he let 3 parms on he said its now policy not to get involved and the people on the bus have to sort it out

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OTTMummA · 10/03/2012 16:02

Next time say it again louder, with a big smile on your face.
Tbh i would of not moved out of anyones way until the lady with the empty pram had folded hers up.
The lady with a child in a buggy doesn't have to justify herself to you at all, if you asked her that, then YABU and rude.
You should of asked the driver to get the empty pram folded because you have a newborn and can not fold it.

suburbandream · 10/03/2012 16:03

If it was "policy" not to get involved, why did he ask you to fold your buggy then?

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 16:03

pandemoniaa since when was 6 classed as a toddler and the other lady with a empty pram her child was with her oh sitting at the back of the bus or what i can only assume to be her oh

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ilovesooty · 10/03/2012 16:04

You can hardly be surprised at that policy given the aggression often directed at bus drivers.

So...your way of "sorting it out" was not to be assertive with the first couple but ask the other woman rude intrusive questions hoping to guilt trip her into emptying the pram?

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 16:05

suburbandream i said i would not fold mine down and that the other lady should

he said he cant get involed in that

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OTTMummA · 10/03/2012 16:07

Maybe walking would help ease this anger of yours OP.
The lady with a child in a buggy doesn't have to justify her child in a buggy to you, a complete stranger
You should of however insisted that the empty pram be folded down.
In that position, i wouldn't of let anyone else past me until that had been done, i don't care about what people think, if i had a newborn in a pram then i would wait, and wait until that woman folded up her empty pram, she would do it sharpish after a good 30 seconds.

Mrbojangles1 · 10/03/2012 16:08

the first lady was blanking me so unless i was going to start shouting then i am not sure what else could of been done apart ask the last lady to get on the bus to fold hers down , after establishing the child was indeed not a baby and didn't have sn

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Pandemoniaa · 10/03/2012 16:08

You sound like a complete nightmare, with respect. I mentioned toddlers because you did. But you simply don't know why the 6 year old was in a buggy, despite your intrusive questioning, so I'm amazed that you are so confident in your assertions of what was correct in the circumstances.

ilovesooty · 10/03/2012 16:10

I think you sound like a nightmare as well. I just can't believe you're still justifying how utterly rude you were.

Journey · 10/03/2012 16:11

I think you were out of order asking her if her ds had sn. I find that very insensitive. It's none of your business, and to expect her to answer your question in front of a bus load of people was very rude of you.

Perhaps the boy is big for his age and the mother is fed up with people thinking he is older than he is so she just goes along with it.

If her ds was ill perhaps this was the best way of getting him from A to B if they didnt have a car.

Tolalola · 10/03/2012 16:11

Sorry, but I just have to say...

...it wasn't a pram, it was a pushchair.

ilovesooty · 10/03/2012 16:13

I suspect you didn't assert yourself with the other woman because her oh was on the bus. Much easier to pick on the lady on her own, with little concern for her feelings or privacy, then come home and rant on an internet forum.